Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 5 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
Old 28-02-2006, 23:07   #1
Registered User
 
Reefer's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Brisbane QLD
Posts: 4
Importing a Boat to Australia

Can anybody enlighten me as to why this boat a Lagoon 410 in Spain ..... http://www.yachtworld.com/core/uk/li...boats=1281231&

is sooooooo much cheaper than this one?

A Lagoon 410 in Sydney....
http://boatpoint.ninemsn.com.au/Desk...as=boatpointau

apart from the 10% import duty (@#$%^&) payable to the Australian Government.

Why is the Sydney one nearly A$200,000 more?

I asked a local broker and he said "forget it, you won't save any money buying overseas."



cheers

My first post

__________________

__________________
Reefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2006, 00:18   #2
Bob Norson
Guest

Posts: n/a
My experience suggests that there is a reason for the difference in price.... does the spainish price include VAT? And it does make a difference that transport from france where made, to OZ has to be considered, whereas transport from france to Spain is a nice day sail.... And condition of course! Vic Sail has never impressed me anyway. Maybe try www.emultihulls.com Whitsunday operation and why not buy where it's good sailing! There are some cats made up in QLD that I think are better than the french stuff anyway but if you just have to have french... Peter Hansen Yacht brokers in Mackay has a nice example.

Glad to see an Aussie post. Do you read The Coastal Passage?

Available free at Boat books and Glass craft in your home town or free download from the web site. www.thecoastalpassage.com

Cheers Mate

Bob Norson
__________________

__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2006, 03:29   #3
Registered User
 
Jeannius's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Worcester U.K.
Boat: Privilege 435 Now Sold
Posts: 719
Price difference

Reefer

"HF radio plus a 70L/hr watermaker, genset and aircon"

The one in Oz has the above 30k (AUS$100k?) of extras compared to the one in Spain.

Also... lots of Lagoon's will have been charter boats. So, if one is ex-charter and the other one isn't, that'll make a big difference as well.
__________________
Mike
Jeannius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2006, 08:35   #4
Registered User
 
BC Mike's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Gabriola BC
Boat: Viking 33 Tanzer 8.5m Tanzer 22
Posts: 1,034
Images: 5
Arbitrage

Is the purchase of goods on one exchange and selling on another. The reason and purpose is to make money as the price may be cheaper in one place than another. Sometimes stock prices are cheaper in Chicago than New York, or Montreal. A boat I am considering is not popular in the US and is listed at about half the price of one in England, which is close enough to Europe where they are popular. Then there is the tax and condition and equipment issues.
Michael
__________________
BC Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 02:33   #5
Registered User
 
Reefer's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Brisbane QLD
Posts: 4
Quote:

Glad to see an Aussie post. Do you read The Coastal Passage?

Available free at Boat books and Glass craft in your home town or free download from the web site. www.thecoastalpassage.com

Cheers Mate

Bob Norson [/B]
I do now,
I read a couple of issues - and had trouble putting them down, had a bit of a chuckle....

I used to work for coastwatch too - so interesting reading.

cheers
__________________
Reefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 07:24   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Currently based near Jacksonville FL; WHOOSH's homeport is St. Pete, FL USA
Boat: WHOOSH, Pearson 424 Ketch
Posts: 591
Mike, along with differential pricing of a given boat from one area to another, don't overlook regulatory (aka: trade barrier) issues. Buying a boat at a cheaper price in N America, then prepping it to cross (or paying to ship it), still leaves one with a N American boat in Europe that is not compliant with the EU's RCD. Best case: it must go thru an approval process which is slow and expensive; worst case: if flagged in an EU country when purchased and then subsequently sailed or shipped there, it is in violation of the RCD the day it arrives and may be impounded. Ugh...

Jack
__________________
WHOOSH, Pearson 424 Ketch
http://www.svsarah.com/Whoosh/WhooshSection.htm
Euro Cruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 07:59   #7
Registered User
 
BC Mike's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Gabriola BC
Boat: Viking 33 Tanzer 8.5m Tanzer 22
Posts: 1,034
Images: 5
Boat

Euro.
The boat was made in Sweden. If I purchase it I would only plan to visit. But then what if I decided to move to Spain ? Too many people, I will stay on the Pacific side between NZ and Vancouver Island. There is also a nice 36 foot Peterson in Washington State which is much closer. The Swedish boat I am referring to is in Texas.
Michael
__________________
BC Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2006, 14:50   #8
Senior Cruiser
 
ozskip's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: gippsland/australia
Posts: 133
Images: 4
I looked into importing a yacht into oz and import tax, transport cost ,custom agent fees and gst on it all including the transport ,it was nearly same price as here.You still must pay import tax and gst on transport even if you bring it here on it's own bottom.The formula they use is costs of food,fuel running costs and an hourly rate for any crew on board.Greg
__________________
ozskip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2006, 00:50   #9
Bob Norson
Guest

Posts: n/a
I am on record as stating that the best place in the world to buy a boat.. especially a cat.. is right here in Australia. The designers and builders and material providers are all here. The charter fleets here tend to buy french and to a lessor extent, American (Hunter) and I have always wondered at that as I know so many examples of Canadians and Americans buying here to sail back.

But a real fact of life is you should buy a boat where you want to sail.... It's no bargain if it's hell to get it back.

Hey Reefer dude! Glad you like the read. The new one is out next week. I have just finished 12 hours in front of the puter putting together pages and writing last minute changes and then what do I do for relaxation?? Skoll two beers and check the action here..... I am living proof puters cause brain damage!

Cheers
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2006, 19:26   #10
Registered User
 
Reefer's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Brisbane QLD
Posts: 4
So its too expensive to import? Then what's on offer...

This one is A$275K, but its 1984 built!

http://www.boatbrokersqld.com.au/det...&Order=&Page=1

Thats 22 years old.

Anybody even heard of a Stratos?
__________________
Reefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-03-2006, 02:45   #11
Bob Norson
Guest

Posts: n/a
nah... don't know that one but I'm not the greatest expert... wonder who the designer is?

did you check www.emultihulls.com? or check the Schionning web site as they list some of their boats there. Just sold out of TCP Bob Orams own 42 footer... ask was $235K and I think he sold for less. that was a 4 year old boat. Wished I had had the money at the time...

cheers
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2007, 21:55   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1
Australian sailing boats

I'm fairly new to Australia and am looking for some good Australian built sailing boats in the 30 - 40 ft LOA range suitable for cruising. Would like some suggestions.







Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Norson View Post
I am on record as stating that the best place in the world to buy a boat.. especially a cat.. is right here in Australia. The designers and builders and material providers are all here. The charter fleets here tend to buy french and to a lessor extent, American (Hunter) and I have always wondered at that as I know so many examples of Canadians and Americans buying here to sail back.

But a real fact of life is you should buy a boat where you want to sail.... It's no bargain if it's hell to get it back.

Hey Reefer dude! Glad you like the read. The new one is out next week. I have just finished 12 hours in front of the puter putting together pages and writing last minute changes and then what do I do for relaxation?? Skoll two beers and check the action here..... I am living proof puters cause brain damage!

Cheers
__________________
chrisvenning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2007, 22:01   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: cairns australia
Boat: now floating easy37
Posts: 638
Images: 41
orams easys mike wallers boats all come to mind as good for the money, if your a little more upmarket then schionnings graingers chamberlains, good to hear youve got another issue happening bob i think you should go to monthly as its boring having to wait 60 days for some decent reading material, you and multihull come out at the same time i think so theres a good week of reading and then nothing, also how about posting some of the early issues in your back issues page for those of us that joined you in issue 16, hows you prospective boat building coming along

sean
__________________
northerncat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2007, 00:06   #14
Senior Cruiser
 
44'cruisingcat's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,849
Images: 69
PSSSST! I know what Bob's going to build. Can't say too much though...... but it's something you might be interested in building one day.
__________________
44'cruisingcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2007, 05:11   #15
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: cairns australia
Boat: now floating easy37
Posts: 638
Images: 41
i did try to tempt him to the dark side but never mind
sean
__________________

__________________
northerncat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Australia

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Buying a US Boat and Importing to Canada KevinE General Sailing Forum 16 13-06-2013 16:30
Importing a Boat From Canada To United States ssullivan Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 19 23-02-2013 18:26
Importing a Yacht from US to Australia neilrob Monohull Sailboats 51 13-09-2012 10:15
US Boat in Australia Wojo Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 15 21-01-2009 05:12
Importing a Boat to Thailand mikereed100 Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 9 30-12-2007 15:26


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

RV & Travel Trailer Communities

Our RV & Travel Trailer sites encompasses virtually all types of Recreational Vehicles, from brand-specific to general RV communities.

» More about our RV Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:37.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Sailing News Delivered to your Email!

Stay up-to-date with the latest cruising news.

unsusbcribe at anytime with one click

Close [X]


ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.