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Old 26-12-2012, 15:09   #46
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Re: Damaged 2012 Lagoon 450, Only $150K

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I contacted the broker, but didn't get a return call, yet. Do most of you concur that the price to repair the boat will be around $200k usd?
Why couldn't the salvage people put a few of those airbags under the middle of the boat, and gently pull it off the reef?
I herd the captain put the boat on auto, while cruising close to shore, then went down below. I saw the pictures, right after it happened. Real sad situation.

No way. Much more like $300,000 plus indicated by Lagoon4us. Essentially dismantling vessel, completely building hulls, new electrics and a lot of time. All possible.

Really only worth scrap parts at present. $50,000 max.

"Why couldn't the salvage people put a few of those airbags under the middle of the boat, and gently pull it off the reef? " Good point.
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Old 26-12-2012, 15:16   #47
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Re: Damaged 2012 Lagoon 450, Only $150K

So much for that idea. I've been looking at 420's for a year now, but the good deals seem to disappear fast. The 450 caught my eye, mainly because I'm looking for a boat I can retire on, and had no plans to flip, or sell in the near future. I'm surprised the mid section of the boat wouldn't handle the stress of the air bags. I also, didn't realize there were 6' seas.
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Old 26-12-2012, 15:33   #48
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It's likely future will be a quickie repair and used as a motor/houseboat unless a keen local gets hold of her.
Remembering the work will need to be effected in the yard she is in now which may or may not be economical.
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Old 26-12-2012, 17:30   #49
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This boat is a total loss. Only good for the parts which where above the roof.
Engines and woodwork will all go bad in short order after the salt bath.

Don't believe everything you think. This Cat is a total loss and is worth about $0.0

VWVortex.com - Brand new Lagoon 450 grounded on a reef and bottom torn out.
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Old 26-12-2012, 17:30   #50
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I don't have a lot of faith in how those new cats are built. We all remember the bumfuzzle story with a new cat.
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Old 26-12-2012, 18:13   #51
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My normal comment would be "that'll buff out," but not so in this case!!!
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Old 26-12-2012, 18:32   #52
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Re: Damaged 2012 Lagoon 450, Only $150K

Two years ago, the yard where I kept my boat hauled a huge, new cat, must have been close to 65'.

One of the travel lift straps CUT RIGHT THROUGH THE BOTTOM! OK, I know.... he should have used more straps, he did not have the straps properly located, the straps were too narrow, the------!

I looked at the place where the hull gave way, the thing was laminated with an outside fiberglass no thicker than1/8", the middle was foam and the inside fiberglass was about the same as the exterior lamination for a total thickness around 1/2-9/16". Say what you will about modern construction, built with strength using light weight technology. I say... bullshit!

No way would I risk my family's safety sailing outside of the harbor in a boat like that. Imagine hitting anything in the water. It is no surprise the pictured 45' boat suffered the damage it did.

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Old 26-12-2012, 18:41   #53
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Thx for the pics Cotemar, never see it before, looks like the insurance company is trying to scam someone, is a write off as i say before, and if the boat is hauled in BVI is going to be very very expensive to fix something , 150.000u$ my ass, for 150.000 u$ i get a nice monohull ready to go ....
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Old 26-12-2012, 18:47   #54
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15 Or so years ago some Americans from a Foundation had an ALUMINIUM Crowther Catamaran built in Tasmania, it journeyed up the east coast of Australia intending on calling in on Gladstone however stopped by Seal Rocks on its way, only to be lifted up and deposited on the rocks by a wave/surge.

It too was dragged off and the damage was very similar to this boat, rocks and coral simply have no mercy on hulls no matter what they are made of.

I cut the bottoms off the boat to the soles and replaced all frames stringers and plating, this being a GRP boat just makes it easier albeit itchier.

YES it can be repaired and yes it can be repaired stronger IF someone with the skills cares to, but YES it will always be documented.

By the way "ALGALITA" sailed back to California from Australia without an issue.
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Old 26-12-2012, 18:54   #56
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Is that a silicone implant?
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Hard to tell if its a disc or a hole or as you say an implant lol??
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Re: Damaged 2012 Lagoon 450, Only $150K

Nice pics, Cotemar. I couldn't see the saildrives, do you think the engines are still in the boat or did they drop out?
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Old 27-12-2012, 08:32   #59
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Lagoon 450 Actual Condition

It was reported that due to a navigational error and that before the Captain had time to correct the vessel's course, they were aground on the reef and rocks. The vessel was pumped and towed.

Both hulls from the bow to the forward engine room compartments are torn open below the waterline. There is damage to the gelcoat, exposing the fiberglass extending aft to both engine compartments. The hull damage is to the outer skin and to the liner from approximately the waterline down to the keels. The main bulkhead at both port and starboard sides is partially damaged and will need to be re-built and then reattached to the hull bottom.

The decks and rig all appear intact, with no obvious structural damage. Vessel shows very nice from waterline up.

Both keels were torn from the vessel and broken up and will need to be replaced. Both rudders and stocks were severely damaged, leaving part of a stub of stock and both rudders were completely torn from the vessel. All will to be replaced and re-fitted to the vessel.

The sail drive boots have been dislodged and will likely need replacing and/or refitting.

The fuel tanks have suffered water ingress and will need to be drained, repaired as needed and re-secured to their mounts.

All of the vessel's electrical wiring and systems were submerged and/or sprayed with salt water and will likely need to be replaced.
All hatches, windows, and port lights appear to be intact and serviceable.

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