Originally Posted by Tscott8201
So after much online searching and looking at boats I have finally found what feels to me to be the perfect boat for us. I have absolutely fallen in love with Amel. Specifically the 50+ foot models like the super maramu and the Amel 54 though I think there are a few others as well. A few of the key features I like are the safety minded construction, the self furling sails
, the ketch
rig which I find to be super attractive on any boat, the isolated engine
room and the hard dodger
and center cockpit
layout. To me they just seem to be a really well thought out boat with a great eye towards safety and comfort.
With all that said, tell me why I'm wrong. Why shouldn't I buy an Amel?
We are buying used by the way and for the time being we will be sailing in U.S. waters, at least until the kids
get older and we decide to make a run for it.
A few issues I know about that might cause some heartburn are below.
1. Most of these boats are in Europe
, so I assume there is a pretty good chance I will end up traveling to get her or having to hire a delivery
crew to get her to the U.S.
2. I assume the electrical system
will most likely be built to European standards, though some research
indicates this may not be that big of a deal as many marinas
have both available.
will have to shipped from France
which will cost more.
4. VAT tax may be an issue buying over seas.
So what am I missing? What other makes should I look at considering the features I like about the Amels?
There are 4 Amel's (53 or 54) listed on the US East Coast
and another 6 in the Caribbean
. More come and go all the time. I'd save yourself the trouble and the complexity of buying overseas and exhaust
the ones here first.
Amel makes a well-regarded cruiser. They seems built very solidly to me. They aren't our cup of tea, though, but if it is yours, one would make a great family
With respect to your concerns, though:
1. Consider an Amel in Europe might not have US import
duty paid (1.5%). In addition you'll probably have several overseas flights to look at different boats, survey
and sea-trial them. It is likely you'll need to do some work, or at least shakedown cruise
, before heading back across the Atlantic. When I bought my boat it was foreign flagged and I made use of a documentation service
to help me through the paperwork; if I were buying a US documented boat I'd have saved myself the $ -- others might do differently. Figure these into your calculation.
2. I have a boat with 230V/50Hz electrical
system. It is not much of a problem if I want to go to a marina in NA because most of them have 240/60 -- and only a few appliances
(dishwasher and washr/dryer) have a problem with the 60Hz. Everything else runs fine. However, when I want to buy an A/C appliance, such as an espresso machine or vacuum cleaner, etc., I need to find the overseas version or run through a transformer. It's not ideal, but not a big issue either.
3. What parts are you considering needing? I know only one Amel who has ever had to order parts from France -- and that was for the specially patterned rubrail after another boat broke free from its mooring
in a tropical storm and collided with him. I have never needed to order a factory part for my Tayana -- I have a hard time imagining one that I would order. What do I mean? The rig is Selden; the mainsail
furling, LeisureFurl; the engine, Yanmar
; the headsail furling, Profurl; the genset, Fischer Panda
; etc. From them I might order parts, but from Tayana, what would I order?
4. If you were to buy in EU, the boat may already be VAT paid. If it isn't, you'll have N days (N=90? 180?) to get it out of there. That VAT is paid will only mean that buying overseas is possibly more expensive because they paid VAT already. You may have to pay a US import
duty (1.5%, I believe) if that hasn't already been paid.
Amel is a very solid and capable boat. Without going into the specific differences, we also have a boat designed for crossing oceans and long-distance cruising. If you only anticipate doing coastal cruising for the foreseeable future, as your post implies, it may not be the best choice. For the several weeks a year that I am offshore
in her, I find her ideal. Many of the design decisions that are great offshore
are less compelling at a dock
or in thin water
. I suggest considering carefully how you intend to use the boat and looking at many boats, and talking to many existing owners before coming to a decision.