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Old 31-01-2018, 11:45   #61
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Here’s the rub though. Most of what is “Bluewater” in a boat is dependent on the person. An otherwise well found boat in the wrong hands can require rescue in a fresh gale. A highly skilled or or tenacious individual can take a hunk of trash across with knowledge and grit.

So really the “you” quotient is inseparable from the equation.

See this story as an example

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the.../2003/may/23/3
I give up. This is pointless.
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Old 31-01-2018, 11:54   #62
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I give up. This is pointless.


Look through the forums, your question has been asked in different forms several (lots!!) times through the years.

I could tell you as a singlehander that any boat you pick, with very few exceptions, is able to make the trip to Hawaii and back. Even beyond if you wish. Hell, given the appropriate weather and prep work I’d take a catalina 22 across.

This type of trip is more about your ability than the particular boat.
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I give up. This is pointless.
Asking for opinions from people you don't know, who likely have no experience and less expertise and probably are uninformed about the subject matter usually is...

Then again, it's the internet so what was your expectation?
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Its not pointless unless you want it to be.. First you pick a Hunter.. then a Catalina and ask if they are 'Blue Water'..
For me a Corribee 21 is blue water capable.. same with a Hurley 22.. having done it.
But what we are seeing is someone looking along a cheap price line and with minimum experience it seems, wanting to doing a trip non stop of a coupla thousand miles on a boat whose capabilities he knows nothing about.
Yet feels the need to ask a load of strangers on the internet who.. for all he knows are sitting in basements in Missouri munching potato chips and sipping Cola in between Google searches and answering your questions.
Then complaining coz the answers are not what he wants to hear.
Personally I prefer popcorn.. in Portugal..
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How do you see Catalinas in the 35 to 38' range for a Ca. to Hi transit, single-handed. As I recall, from day-sailing them 20 years ago out of MDR, CA, they are light and tall - good for light airs. Do you think they are substantial enough to make the passage.
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If I we're in your shoes I would be spending my time researching about singlehanders who raced their boats in the Transpac. That should give you better direction.
A Catalina 34 did this a year or two ago. And it was a woman who did it.
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A Catalina 34 did this a year or two ago. And it was a woman who did it.


Hell, Webb Chiles circumnavigated on a Moore 24!!
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A Catalina 34 did this a year or two ago. And it was a woman who did it.
Ahh yes.. found that one on a Yahoo search..
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Old 31-01-2018, 13:03   #68
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I have a 1990 Hunter legend 37.5. she is a solid boat, very easy to single hand, and sails well. Systems are simple. Only three through hulls to worry about. 75 gal water tank, 35 gal fuel, and 20 gal poop tank. The water and fuel tanks are midline and balanced. She has and excellent sea berth. I have been in 30 plus knot winds with 10 foot seas, and reefed appropriately, she is sea kindly. We have been in the Atlantic with her, during some storms, and it was just fine. I have come across other legend owners who extoll the same virtues.

When I tested for my ICC, the RYA instructor was so impressed with her seaworthiness, he chartered my boat for a trip of his own.

This particular boat, like others, has its weaknesses. I would be happy to describe them in detail for you. Is this is my sixth season with this boat. I bought her a used, obviously. I have been sailing my whole life, and this has been the absolute best boat we've been on. It's the perfect compromise between cost, function, safety, and comfort. I have a family of 5 and 2 dogs and everybody has a place to sleep. The Galley is very functional and it is very nice, actually, cooking underway. I have been on some of my friends beneteau's or Jeaneaus, and they're not nearly as comfortable at Sea as my boat is.

I was an active Charter for 10 years prior to buying this boat and so I've sailed many different models of boats. I was able to compare and contrast all of the boats I sailed on to help me pick the boat that we finally purchased.

In a nutshell, I am also of the philosophy that a good Sailor sails better on a Lesser boat then a poor sailor on a million-dollar boat.

Good luck to you and let me know if I can be of further help.

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Here is a video I shot of my uncle and I out sailing the Chesapeake last November. I know you want to do blue water and this is of Chesapeake Bay and it's Coastal cruising but it will give you a sense of the boat and the paces that she can be put through with no difficulties:

https://youtu.be/womCBpHI93w

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Hell, Webb Chiles circumnavigated on a Moore 24!!
True, but that wasn't his question.
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True, but that wasn't his question.


No, but his question was beginning to range into unanswerable.
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Re: Hunter - Blue-water or not?

lately I get the impression that no matter how much experience we have & how strong our opinions on subjects that we really know about are, from time to time there are surprises & we have to adjust our opinions...
(happened to me when I watched the vid of the fiberglass boat being pounded on the breakwater (Redondo beach?) & surviving or the Bav getting knocked down past 90° by a breaker in a harbour entrance & coming up very quickly, mast still up & engine still running. both boats I would not have wanted to take "blue water"...)
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No, but his question was beginning to range into unanswerable.
It does seem a strange question because blue-water does not describe sailing conditions and/or risk.

I think it should be something like "Hunter - comfortable in Force 10 ?"
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Its not pointless unless you want it to be.. First you pick a Hunter.. then a Catalina and ask if they are 'Blue Water'..
For me a Corribee 21 is blue water capable.. same with a Hurley 22.. having done it.
But what we are seeing is someone looking along a cheap price line and with minimum experience it seems, wanting to doing a trip non stop of a coupla thousand miles on a boat whose capabilities he knows nothing about.
Yet feels the need to ask a load of strangers on the internet who.. for all he knows are sitting in basements in Missouri munching potato chips and sipping Cola in between Google searches and answering your questions.
Then complaining coz the answers are not what he wants to hear.
Personally I prefer popcorn.. in Portugal..
Let me help you out.

First, however, I wholeheartedly agree with you that doing research by asking questions on this forum is an utter, complete and total waste of time and effort. In fact, I found it to be less-than-worthless.

Secondly, I didn't complain because the answers are not what I want to hear.

I complained because they are answers to questions/issues I didn't ask.

I asked about boats, various boats, aspects of boats, etc., - period. NOT me, or my experience, or lack thereof (which you assume).

I'll provide an analogy so you can wrap your brain around what I am referring to.

Suppose I ask you what time it is. You reply that it is partly cloudy, and then berate me over my lack of weather-forecasting experience.

Can you understand that, or do you need somebody to explain it to you?

Again, I reiterate what an utter waste of time and effort this forum is.

It seems that the only people who should ask questions on a forum such as this are ones who already know the answers.

I asked questions because I wanted to learn - to learn about what sort of boat would be suitable, and which would not be suitable, as well as other aspects that would be pertinent. I repeat TO LEARN.

Once I selected and purchased the boat, I would gain the experience I feel is required to supplement my already-considerable maritime experience, which includes a round-trip between NYC and London, ditto between HNL and SFO, both on powered craft.

Accordingly, I'll put you in my wake with no regrets whatsoever.
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It does seem a strange question because blue-water does not describe sailing conditions and/or risk.

I think it should be something like "Hunter - comfortable in Force 10 ?"
You have got to be kidding. Everyone, but you, understands that blue-water means long-distance offshore, where the water is deep and blue, NOT inshore where it is more green.
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