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Old 28-01-2016, 15:49   #1
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Boat With Owner's Bed Access From Both Sides

Hi all

I would like to ask to the more expert sailer among here, wich brand offer the owner's bed placed in the middle of the beam (both aft or stern, it's the same) in order to be able to
get in and out the bed without overlap the partners
Max 40-42 ft, budged 80k euro, liveaboard use and long cruising.

I really like the U shaped kitchen or the kichen along the saloon like the feeling (maybe with a box attached to the table-sofa)

Last request: a not much vertical stepped ladder, that you can go up and down safely without need to use handrail (like feeling 32 or 36 or 39 for example, just 3-4 long steps)

Ok pratically like a feeling but with an accessible bed

I can consider all, pilothouse (really like it), centercockpit, whatever






I was thinking also about a center cockpit sailboat and convert the stern cabine as owner...Is it easy to be done with wood-fiberglass-aluminium reinforcement along the bed's edge?

As now i found benedau oceanis 430 where the bow cabin can be easly converted to a single big bed in the middle,

And this irwin 38 center cockpit (but quite stepped ladder, but i really like the U shaped kichen) maybe as there is lot of space in the saloon i could modify and get a longer and less stepped ladder? Stupid idea?:S



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Old 28-01-2016, 18:02   #2
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Catalina 400 hs centerline queen ft cabin. Some Catlina 42s have centerline forward cabin. They are more common in center cockpit boats.
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Old 29-01-2016, 01:16   #3
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Re: Boat With Owner's Bed Access From Both Sides

stefano, what will help you a whole lot is to visualize all of this heeled at 30-40 degrees.

You do want handrails at the companionway. The whole vessel should have hand holds for you, and your wife.

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stefano, what will help you a whole lot is to visualize all of this heeled at 30-40 degrees.

You do want handrails at the companionway. The whole vessel should have hand holds for you, and your wife.

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Lol. Ann is so very right.
Not to mention leecloths for the berth.
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Old 29-01-2016, 15:22   #5
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Salon handrails are fun for coupling couples, leecloths are not.
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Old 29-01-2016, 15:27   #6
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stefano, what will help you a whole lot is to visualize all of this heeled at 30-40 degrees.

You do want handrails at the companionway. The whole vessel should have hand holds for you, and your wife.

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Better yet, visualize everything heeled over and having to make your way forward to the head, while feeling sea sick.
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Also, the forepeak cabin in a boat that size is nearly unusable at sea, except in very calm conditions. The nicest place to sleep is usually in the saloon. I see so many boats with huge owner's forepeak cabins and imagine they are only used for daysailing, which is fine if that's what someone wants.

The Oyster 435 also has a central aft owner's cabin. It might be possible to find one in the OP's price range, but it would be in need of work.
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I've not seen a boat with a double berth in the center of the boat with the ability to get out of either side. If that's what you mean by "middle of the beam".
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I think "middle of the beam" can only mean along the fore-aft centerline (really a plane, not a line, dividing the starboard half from the port half of the boat). If there is an alternative meaning, I can't imagine what it might be.
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Ahhh...I see. I was thinking he wanted it in the center of the boat for minimal motion.
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Old 30-01-2016, 08:11   #11
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Thanks all for the answer...

I'd meaned the bed in the middle to be able to get in and out not from the pillow-part but from the side like a domestic bed...But well heeling 40 degree and run with the face on the floor while sleepping...ok..better V bed in the bow

At the end abandoned the idea of the mid beam bed for an ordinary bow bed...

For center cockpit abandoned the idea too for the too much stepped-go to the basement style ladder (gf's word LOL)

Hand rail ok have it for coupling for holding everywhere, i'd meant not necesasary to go up and down the ladder, with face forward, for example with good seas get the helm table ready for lunch without need to use the hand rail and go up-down 20 times or 4 people needed and make a supply chain LOL (like this summer) fork- towels-knife-glasses-dish, ecc LOL..

OK i'll came back to an ordinary boat thanks all for the idea...
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Stefano, it would be described as a "centerline" berth, in power boat ads -- at least from the last decade or two. Usually "centerline queen" with varying degrees of exaggeration involved. You might try that as a search term....


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Stefano, it would be described as a "centerline" berth, in power boat ads -- at least from the last decade or two. Usually "centerline queen" with varying degrees of exaggeration involved. You might try that as a search term....


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Thanks, sometimes my english make me wrong at all

Not to worry, your English is very good -- and very much better! -- than my Italian!!

Although I'd probably never actually starve there; restaurant grammar is always easier...

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hi Stefano,
my 1981 Lancer 42 motor sailor has the main cabin forward with access to both sides of the bed. it has a U-shaped galley to port and aft in the salon...the boat is in good shape, very attractive, well maintained and located in Luperon in the dominican republic and comes with a marina docking space....and it's for sale...best, john
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