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**Seaworthy Lass** · 06-06-2018, 14:53

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Originally Posted by leftbrainstuff

Not so.

As per the official Australian Government Flags Booklet part 2 https://www.pmc.gov.au/resource-cent...oklet-part-two

FLYING THE AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL

FLAG AND RED ENSIGN ON SHIPS

The Australian red ensign is the flag to be

flown by Australian-registered merchant

ships. Either the Australian National

Flag or the Australian red ensign can

be flown by government ships, fishing

vessels, pleasure craft, small craft and

commercial vessels under 24 metres in

tonnage length, but not both ensigns at

the same time.

We fly the blue Aussie flag overseas because it uniquely identifies us as Aussie and eliminates much confusion.

The "recommendation" by the CYCA was regarding current etiquette rather than regulations. Since 1981 regulations have stated either the Aussie red or blue ensigns can be flown by pleasure craft. The CYCA guidelines were about the only thing I could find on what is the preferred choice.

The Aussie red ensign is certainly "traditional" and many share Wottie's view that it is "improper" to fly anything else on a yacht. That view does seem to be changing. In the Med the vast majority of Aussie boats I saw were flying a blue rather than red flag.

Regarding confusion about identity, I think selecting blue does little to elimiate this, particularly in Europe. Lots of British boats wear a blue ensign or a defaced one and these are fairly common in European waters (more so than Australian flags). The Kiwi national flag is also very similar to the Australian one. So much so that even lots of Aussies make mistakes with casual identification.

All this contibuted to my indecision with flag colour. Out of European waters I still think I would fly blue.

SWL

cj88 · 06-06-2018, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

The Kiwi national flag is also very similar to the Australian one. So much so that even lots of Aussies make mistakes with casual identification.

I think it should be written "the Australian flag is very similar to the Kiwi flag" given that the NZ flag was designed some decades earlier in 1869

Those are some great photos of her sailing, looking forward to seeing more over time.

**Seaworthy Lass** · 06-06-2018, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj88

I think it should be written "the Australian flag is very similar to the Kiwi flag" given that the NZ flag was designed some decades earlier in 1869

I didn't know that

.

I do remember during one of the debates regarding our national flag when a reporter held up a NZ flag and quizzed several Aussies on whether or not the Australian flag should be changed. Not one person recognised that the flag he was holding was not Australian!

packeteer · 06-06-2018, 16:22

btw, pics are also on the KM Instagram feed

she looks awesome!

**Wotname** · 07-06-2018, 01:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

............
The Aussie red ensign is certainly "traditional" and many share Wottie's view that it is "improper" to fly anything else on a yacht. That view does seem to be changing. In the Med the vast majority of Aussie boats I saw were flying a blue rather than red flag.

.............
SWL

The viewpoint might be changing but that doesn't make it right......

**Wotname** · 07-06-2018, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

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Regarding confusion about identity, I think selecting blue does little to elimiate this, particularly in Europe. Lots of British boats wear a blue ensign or a defaced one and these are fairly common in European waters (more so than Australian flags). The Kiwi national flag is also very similar to the Australian one. So much so that even lots of Aussies make mistakes with casual identification.

All this contibuted to my indecision with flag colour. Out of European waters I still think I would fly blue.

SWL

Hmm, shouldn't the rebel in you (

) have both red and blue on board and then fly the one that the others aren't in whatever area you are in.

**weavis** · 07-06-2018, 01:44

I thought the red just suited the colour of the vessel more.

What do I know...

**Wotname** · 07-06-2018, 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by weavis

I thought the red just suited the colour of the vessel more.

What do I know...

It certainly does

You are RIGHT

about the colour but wrong about what you know

.

**weavis** · 07-06-2018, 01:54

Following the build has been a very rewarding experience. I have changed my mind over using Aluminium as a material. (I think I was prejudiced against it from the Falklands war and the horrific burns from the superheated burning of the metal).
I see it now more as one of the most durable and resilient of all materials to use for boat building.

It also is nice to see on a "traditional" design with hugely sleek overtones... so very beautiful.

The end result for the owners is as they wanted. Im sure most of us will have different design criteria internally, yet give me the superstructure and looks and I can play inside all I want...

So very wonderful.

Thank you for sharing..

Pelagic · 08-06-2018, 00:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by weavis

So very wonderful.

Thank you for sharing..

Second that Weavis!

I'm sure amongst all the hard work of quality checks and adjustments of the finished build..... towards that final stage payment at Acceptance,

SWL and Nolex must have sore thighs from pinching themselves[emoji4]

mrm · 08-06-2018, 01:00

I have a tough time deciding, whether the pictures are work of art, or the work of art is pictured.
Likely both..

**Pete7** · 08-06-2018, 02:32

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Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

I didn't know that

.

I do remember during one of the debates regarding our national flag when a reporter held up a NZ flag and quizzed several Aussies on whether or not the Australian flag should be changed. Not one person recognised that the flag he was holding was not Australian!

Oh yes, well learn something new every day.