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Old 22-11-2009, 07:13   #151
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Me and my girlfriend sailed accross the south pacific in a 30ft cat. I hadn't mind a bigger one but that was all we could afford at that time. 6 months after the crossing I went down to Belgium to help a guy with a 63 ft Ketch (shipped in from NZ). One thing is for sure. I will never get a monohull as a long distance boat. If you like to heel all the time = buy a mono. If you want it comfortable = buy a cat. That is the main decision for me, to have a comfortable lifestyle onboard.

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Old 22-11-2009, 22:31   #152
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Old 23-11-2009, 08:47   #153
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Old 23-11-2009, 11:59   #154
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Try the bosun's chair; hooked to the main halyard for a little "lift". Works fer me!

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Old 23-11-2009, 14:27   #155
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Technically these posts qualify as a technique, although this isn't exactly sailing technique, now is it? Is someone giving gold stars for creativity?.. or should you guys be on the Penthouse forum??
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When you make a fast passage. There will be less chance of encountering bad weather. More time to lay on the hook, so you can slow down to smell the roses. I have cruised at 4 knots average, and 8 knots average, sometimes even much higher. You will understand if you have ever cruised. If not it just doesn't make sense to some..........i2f
Everyone here I hope recognizes I have no allegiance to monos and my plan is to buy a cat.

However I must surmise that dollar for dollar you can get a faster mono than a cat.

That is with $150,000 bucks to spend you can get a faster mono than a cat.

My concern is that we always compare 42 foot monos with 42 foot cats and with dollars being the lubricant it just isn't a paritive comparison IMO.
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Old 23-11-2009, 17:46   #157
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Everyone here I hope recognizes I have no allegiance to monos and my plan is to buy a cat.

However I must surmise that dollar for dollar you can get a faster mono than a cat.

That is with $150,000 bucks to spend you can get a faster mono than a cat.

My concern is that we always compare 42 foot monos with 42 foot cats and with dollars being the lubricant it just isn't a paritive comparison IMO.
I'd like to see your math.

If hull speed for mono's is 1.34 x the sq rt of the WL

and

If hull speed for cats's is 1.72 x the sq rt of the WL

Where does the price curve intersect?
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Old 23-11-2009, 18:07   #158
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However I must surmise that dollar for dollar you can get a faster mono than a cat.

That is with $150,000 bucks to spend you can get a faster mono than a cat.

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Crazy talk


Beneteau Oceanis 41 for $150k


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Old 23-11-2009, 18:20   #159
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I will sit on my 43 foot cat...flat all day long....with my drinks and food on the table.......and sail through fairly rough seas without having to hold onto anything......I have owned both.....But love my cat....passages are soooooo much more relaxing and fast. Again my personal preference...but i'll not be going to one hull again.
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OK, that's funny!

Sell this to the missus:



Or this:



Crazy talk, a cruising mono vs a beach cat? Too funny.

Hope the boat build is going well and you are in the water soon.

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I can guarantee you that you assertions are false.
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Old 23-11-2009, 20:07   #161
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OK, that's funny!
Crazy talk, a cruising mono vs a beach cat? Too funny.
Comparable comforts or interior was not in question

Shall I remind you what the comment was?

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LOL Ok, how about this then, which is quicker?

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Bet the missus takes this interior this time though:





And passes on this one.....





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Shall I remind you what the comment was?
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It was asserted that for a given amount you could always buy a faster monohull than a cat. I don't think so. In fact I'd say the opposite is true. If you set out to find the fastest available mono or cat at any given budget, I'd say the cat will always be the faster boat.

Certainly you could also buy a cat that is slower, if you set out to look for one as you have, but that's not the point.
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I'm a cat guy but I don't like rounded settees.

I like to nap.
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LOL Ok, how about this then, which is quicker?
Oh goody, more silly games

How about this one?


62 foot Gunboat for $2,290,000 USD

or


72 ft Reichel Pugh for $4,408,864 USD

Which one is more comfortable and faster, bearing in mind the gunboat video floating around of this boat flogging an 80 ft Reichel Pugh, which I assume would be more expensive and possibly faster than a 72 fter.

I'll have 2 gunboats instead thanks, or $2.2 mill in the bank earning me $175,000 a year for doing nothing.
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