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27-06-2006, 00:34
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Senior Cruiser
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Location: Marlborough Sounds. New Zealand
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When is a yacht a yacht or not.
So I am curiouse. We here in NZ tend to call any "larger" sailboat a yacht. Any "larger" powered boat a Launch. A Yacht would can be anything, but small "dingy" type sailboats would be often called a sailboat. A powered vessel is a power boat up till it has a cabin in which you can virtually live in. Then it kinda becomes a Launch. A small powered boat with no cabin is called a "runabout". A larger with a "cuddy cabin" is called a power boat. And then it is quite possible there are other terms often used as well. Yikes, now I have just realised we make it confusing down here as well.
Anway's..... I realise you guys call any large boat a yacht. So for you folk, at what point does a powered vessel become a yacht????
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27-06-2006, 03:22
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30' and above
Jef
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Contest 36s
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27-06-2006, 04:29
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Every definition I've seen indicates that a yacht is a boat, regardless of size, used for pleasure, not work. I haven't seen the definition restricted to being able to carry a tender. I always suspected that it was a definition used by the rich to avoid paying taxes on boats that are owned by people who have sufficient means to use a boat only for fun.
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27-06-2006, 05:29
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there's a very simple test. if all you can find below is beer, it's definitely a boat.
if you find a store of wine aboard, you're on a yacht, it's probably a yacht.
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27-06-2006, 05:31
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What if the wine comes in a cardboard box and a plastic spout? Is it still a yacht?
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27-06-2006, 05:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Wheeler
Anway's..... I realise you guys call any large boat a yacht. So for you folk, at what point does a powered vessel become a yacht????
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Alan,
At about 10 million dollars. Anything under is a sailboat or power boat. One look and you know whether it's a yacht or not.
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27-06-2006, 06:09
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I can also say that for sure... any pleasure boat (or charter boat - excluding fishing vessels) that has a crew wearing uniforms, preparing elaborate dinners with wine, and attending to guests is probably a yacht. I say this, even though our boat is a sailboat with "yacht syle" service on it.
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27-06-2006, 06:14
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open another bottle of wine
Alan,
The rule is this:
If you don’t know if you have a sailboat or a yacht, then you have a sailboat…..
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27-06-2006, 06:17
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Boat with head and galley facilities = yacht. Without = dinghy!
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27-06-2006, 06:26
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wheels:
I remember sailing in college we used to sail against Cal Maritime Academy, UC Berkely,Cal Poly, and Stanford. We sailed in a 14' dinghy called an FJ. The Standford coach always refurred to his teams vessels as, "yachts." Pretenious. Yes. But they did win alot of races. Hardly yachts though.
My opinion: Call it whatever you want its still just "a hole in the water that you throw money into." If its a yacht you have to throw in bigger bills.
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27-06-2006, 09:30
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I agree that it is any boat used for recreation see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yacht
This became clear to me the first time I searched the US Coast Guard websites looking for information about documenting a boat. I got the impression the Coast Guard considered a noncommercial boat being used for pleasure is a yacht (and possibly the people on board yachties not knowing what they are doing). That in contrast to commercial vessels being operated by professional.
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27-06-2006, 15:03
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I thought I owned a yacht until I had the chance to look around a Manta 42 catamaran. Guy's those boats don't have a galley, they have full kitchens!! Not to mention 4 cabins.
That's a yacht and mine's a scow
Rick in Florida
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27-06-2006, 17:49
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cruiser
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I'm partial to Ed Steele's answer. ha ha ha
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27-06-2006, 18:16
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I've always considered a vessel that you work on yourself a boat.
And one that you pay people to work on a Yacht.
I guess it all depends on which side of the railroad tracks you came from................................_/)
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27-06-2006, 18:39
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I do not remember the source, but I do remember it was reputable, a vessel used commercially is a motor vessel, sailing vessel etc. A vessel used exclusively for pleasure is a yacht regardless of size. Hense the appropriate use of the term m/v s/v vs s/y or m/y. As for a ship, the official rule is over 100' is a ship. The otherr difference is a yacht is a hole you throw money into, but on a vessel, at least a little of it floats
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