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Old 02-09-2014, 15:07   #46
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Re: Survivability of Novice Sailors

^^^^^^having a bad day, dude?

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Old 02-09-2014, 15:19   #47
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^^^^^^having a bad day, dude?

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I have enchanted days never bad.
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Old 02-09-2014, 15:27   #48
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Re: Survivability of Novice Sailors

I'll stick with the tide going in or out... at least when on land. When aboard... it goes up and down. After all... the water volume doesn't change.. it just goes somewhere else! Is a water filled balloon going up? down? in? out? when you squeeze it? who cares!
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Old 02-09-2014, 15:39   #49
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Re: Survivability of Novice Sailors

It is a very common thing to both ask and be asked, "Is the tide coming in or going out? It may be incorrect terminology but it is certainly accepted usage by most folks.

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Re: Survivability of Novice Sailors

Meh - I always ask is the tide rising or falling...

Hellosailor is correct. Even though everyone will understand when asked if the tide is coming in or going out.
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FWIW, I have a couple or three thousand miles solo.

Yeah, it's tough.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't try...if you want to.
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Re: Survivability of Novice Sailors

The OP's been gone for a while, but I still think with an untried boat and an inexperienced skipper, singlehanding is less than optimal, and that if we want to help people, we should not encourage people who have little own experience of what they are risking.

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When the tide rises and the water gets higher "here" than it is "there", the tidal rise creates a current flow from "here" to "there".
Actually the currents create the tide, not the other way round...
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Looking at a couple of 37-38' blue water cruisers in the Boston area. Provided all checks out, I am considering singlehanding the successful candidate down the coast to Florida.
I have sailed smaller vessels but in freshwater only. Very mechanically inclined and able to navigate using maps and compasses, gps ect. (private pilot)
There is no timetable to worry about other than Winter and Hurricane season.
Is this doable or an I still dreaming?
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Take her down through the ICW. It is much safer for a new sailor. The time invested learning your new boat will pay huge dividends later on. I wouldn't attempt a coastal trek with limited sailing experience unless I had a experienced mate to go with me.
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Somehow this turned from going down the inter coastal without having a schedule to keep to going offshore single handing?
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Re: Survivability of Novice Sailors

I find it really funny that there is such a debate around whether tides go 'in and out', or 'up and down'. Lol that's hilarious...

I've been sailing for three years now, maybe 2000 miles. I'm hoping to do some single handed sailing come this summer of just a couple of days. I personally think it's nuts to encourage someone who's not sailed off sure to start of with single handed sailing. brave or stupid, maybe both.
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"Sailboats sitting still at inlets? I've been motorsailing, with engine and sails, with a racing crew, in the Hellgate (NYC) and making almost seven knots through the water for an hours. Groundspeed? Ergh, about a hundred yards in the same time. That's all from trying to fight just the current, not the tide. It was either that, or anchor, and if you know the holding grounds near there, you don't risk your anchor when you can go sailing.

didn't plan the current right i see -- been through hells gate a few times - best over the ground speed was 10 k and scared the crap out of me as lost steering and had to increase the engine rpm to get it back -
every time i ran the east river i spent a bit of time with the book looking at the current and when to leave
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OK, Ann, you've convinced me. I'll be an optimist and just encourage everyone to jump on a boat and have at it, even if that's solo. Preferably a big boat, but whatever they can get on the water fast. I've had the epiphany, seen the light, and the Brokers' Association tells me it is good for business, vital to the US economic recovery, to make sure those boats get sold and get out there, one way or another. The PGA also tells me that golf courses are way too crowded, they'd rather everyone was out sailing too. And most importantly, the International Order of Scavengers and Bottomfeeders Amalgamated reminds me that crabs and sharks got eat too.

So, wtf, I recant all my reservations and with apologies to Nike say "Just do it!"
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OK, Ann, you've convinced me. I'll be an optimist and just encourage everyone to jump on a boat and have at it, even if that's solo. Preferably a big boat, but whatever they can get on the water fast. I've had the epiphany, seen the light, and the Brokers' Association tells me it is good for business, vital to the US economic recovery, to make sure those boats get sold and get out there, one way or another. The PGA also tells me that golf courses are way too crowded, they'd rather everyone was out sailing too. And most importantly, the International Order of Scavengers and Bottomfeeders Amalgamated reminds me that crabs and sharks got eat too.

So, wtf, I recant all my reservations and with apologies to Nike say "Just do it!"
Ok, To show my autistic traits, that's 'sarcasm' isn't it?
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Actually the currents create the tide, not the other way round...
Actually gravitational attraction creates the tide. Tide creates the current.
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