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Old 05-11-2014, 20:20   #16
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I'd wager that many more people have disappeared in Marina del Rey than were ever lost in the Bermuda Triangle.
When I lived in MDR, _I_ never disappeared. However, after some consumption of adult beverages, I believed that my apartment had disappeared....


(I eventually found it... It musta came back while I was looking)
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Old 05-11-2014, 20:51   #17
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Re: Prohibited for Sailing Areas

I'm pretty sure there are parts of Novaya Zemlya I would never want to be near, even if one could.

Northern Greenland would be seriously a challenge also.
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The San Francisco Bay should be avoided at all costs, and most of California.
They have these horrible deathly beasts called Taxxmanidites that will certainly cause death to all that come near.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:40   #19
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Re: Prohibited for Sailing Areas

I think what was being suggested, all humorous comments aside, was a listing of spots that have some inherent danger which is otherwise not obvious.

Unexploded ordnance (island ofVieques?) or lethal snakes or radiation all are good examples.

I hear parts of the Fauklands are still heavily mined (land mines.)

Hum, this might make a good research project and a neat little sailing book...

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Old 06-11-2014, 09:29   #20
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I had a friend (single hander) that stopped at Moruroa on his way up from Pitcairn. He used the SHORT OF WATER routine, and was treated like a king. I think he was really looking for booze, since that is what he consumed most of the time on his boat. They gave him water, lots of wine, and 72 hours to rest. This was in the late 70s, and I dont even know if they still have a military group there since there is no more bomb testing. In that same year, I checked out of Mazatlan for the Marquesas, and decided to see if my plastic sexton was good enough to find an Island. The Revillagigedos came up on the horizon, just like they were supposed to, so we spent 4 days there, and had a fun time. The Mexican Navy weather station is lonely duty, and the young officers and their families were glad to have some diversion from the monotony. Oh yes, they gave our paperwork a 30 second glance. In our modern times of National Paranoia I am sure that much has changed , and certainly not changed for the better. The bucket list that I am working on includes going back to the SOPAC and stopping at many of the small islands and anchorages that I missed the first time around. I hope political fear mongering, and the police state mentality wont make that impossible to do. I still have great hopes for the world. _____Grant.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:56   #21
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There are severeral in the pacific Johnston Atoll, Kwajelienaoll, Bikini atoll is not prohibited but requires permission. Rongelap atoll and entwetok atoll.Gary
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Old 06-11-2014, 11:15   #22
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Plum Island off the eastern tip of Long Island (NY, not the one in the Bahamas or elsewhere) is strictly no go.

Owned by the US Government and access controlled by the DHS. They do research on various pathogens there and at one time it was considered as a site for bioweapons research which "they" claim did not go forward.
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How about Kahoʻolawe between Maui, Lana'i and Hawai'i? I know it used to be absolutely no go, was a bombing range. Shore landing is still forbidden except for Hawaiians engaged in cultural and spiritual observances. IIRC the waters within two miles of the island are restricted but can now be entered, but don't take my word for it.
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Re: Prohibited for Sailing Areas

Had a good friend that was stationed at Johnston Atoll a few years ago, it was apparently being used to dump or neutralize chemical weapons, he was a chemical officer. So apparently it's not radioactive or if so not very, not so sure about the chemicals though
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I doubt radiation levels in Mururoa would be dangerous enough to preclude a visit. Even most of the evacuated area around Tchernobyl is safe for visitors.
Moving to Mururoa and living of the land there however might cost you a few days in life expectancy.
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Just say no.
Ilha da Queimada Grande,
Maybe better source Ilha da Queimada Grande - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
even has coordinates Coordinates: 24.483333S 46.683333W
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Hum, this might make a good research project and a neat little sailing book...

HPeers guide to the unobvious pitfalls of cruising, or The Uncruising Guide
yes, thats exactly what I am looking for. An "uncruising" guide, where you can look up if some place you are going to go should be avoided. But there is none yet afaik, so its a good project for a liveaboard webmaster who sails and lives on google ads.
I would do it with 2 lists:
- Prohibited areas for sailing list
- Not recommended area for sailing
A google map integration would bring the website lots of traffic. And it will be quickly filled with data from the users if you put a form for "new place submission"
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You mean like getting lost in a magnetic vortex?
not really, but
interesting, there is one in the Gulf of Aden
Mysterious 'Vortex' Warned Is Creating Global Weather Catastrophe
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yes, thats exactly what I am looking for. An "uncruising" guide, where you can look up if some place you are going to go should be avoided. But there is none yet afaik, so its a good project for a liveaboard webmaster who sails and lives on google ads.
I would do it with 2 lists:
- Prohibited areas for sailing list
- Not recommended area for sailing
A google map integration would bring the website lots of traffic. And it will be quickly filled with data from the users if you put a form for "new place submission"

Amused:, of the millions of nice places to go and see, why would anyone want to know about the handful of obscure places where you can't or wouldn't want to go.

Im, waiting for the Lonely planet guide to : Ghettos, next
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Amused:, of the millions of nice places to go and see, why would anyone want to know about the handful of obscure places where you can't or wouldn't want to go.

Im, waiting for the Lonely planet guide to : Ghettos, next
Everybody has a website with good places to go, and nobody has a website with a no-go places. That's a guaranteed success for generating lots of pageviews. Site like this is not only useful , but also interesting, people is very curious, they gonna find a link by one subject and quickly start browsing on another, from snakes to nuclear weapons , from nuclear wepons to mined islands, and so on... This site, by its uniqueness will be listed quickly by major sailing-related sites so, you will go to a high page rank very quickly. The only hard job is to prepare the content.

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