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Old 11-02-2013, 18:07   #1
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It's existed for years
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It is twice the size of Texas! It moves north and south as the High pressure area does it's thing

http://scienceray.com/earth-sciences...garbage-patch/

Search on "Pacific Garbage Patch" you'll get 632,000 results, some with pictures!
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Re: Pacific Ocean Garbage Patch

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It is twice the size of Texas! It moves north and south as the High pressure area does it's thing

Facts About the Great Pacific Garbage Patch | Scienceray

Search on "Pacific Garbage Patch" you'll get 632,000 results, some with pictures!
John, please do a little more research. The site you show is, to be charitable, rather hyperbolic.

Here are the tracks VALIS has sailed through the region from 2003 - 2010:


Since I put this image together I have made one more mainland-Hawaii round-trip, this time from San Francisco, to Hawaii, to the Strait of Juan de Fuca.

We've seen trash, and too much of it. But there has been nothing remotely approaching what these "raising awareness" organizations are claiming. On last summer's trip from Hawaii to the Strait of Juan de Fuca, I invited two marine debris researchers who were working with NOAA to join the crew. They spent several hours every day scanning the water and logging any debris they saw. I had wanted to tow a sampling net, but at the last minute they couldn't get one.

Anyway, at no time did we see anything resembling a consolidated debris field. There were areas with more trash, and with less. Sometimes we saw stuff every minute or five, and other times we would sail for a day without seeing any visible debris. There were a few items that were probably tsunami-related, but we didn't see much of that.

I don't like trash, at sea or on land. We humans should take better care of our planet. But too many people are spouting half-truths and outright lies about the Pacific Garbage Patch. Perhaps they believe this stuff, and I suppose I should understand their concern. I am afraid, though, that ill-considered "solutions" may cause more harm than good, and will detract from honest science and research, and from efforts that may have a true positive effect.

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It is twice the size of Texas! It moves north and south as the High pressure area does it's thing
According to my Navionics chart it's not a Texas sized floating garbage dump in the Mid Pacific - it is Texas .

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[QUOTE=David_Old_Jersey;1160261]According to my Navionics chart it's not a Texas sized floating garbage dump in the Mid Pacific - it is Texas .

I learned to sail in Texas. I have been telling folks that Galveston Bay is just the Gulf of Mexico. I was wrong.

That must the uncharted atoll that some pilot spotted.
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