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Old 20-02-2016, 16:34   #331
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RamblinRod, that seems like a pretty reasonable approach. Are you reasonable enough to admit that halyards slapping all night bother the living hell out of some people? And that without the convenient recourse to marina regulations, those of us who aren't as laid back as you about slapping halyards should reasonably expect courtesy and consideration from nearby neighbors to silence their slapping halyards?
Admit slapping halyards may bother some people? What do you mean "admit"? I've stated this emphatically multiple times throughout this thread. Some people let slapping halyards, wind whistling, birds chirping, and children laughing bother them to no end.

The problem really isn't the noise maker, it's the person's response to it. If a halyards slaps in the empty marina, does it make a sound? (The answer is no, but that's a different matter.)

If a halyard slaps and people enjoy the sound, is it noise? (Again the answer is no.)

So if 51% of marina stayers enjoy the sound of halyards in the wind, should all be required to let their halyards slap?

Everyone can expect courtesy. Some deserve it. Some maybe not. Not everyone who deserves it, gets it. Some who don't, do.

If the halyards are getting to someone, maybe it's time they got off the dock and go sailing for a change. Maybe after a few days of fresh air, and the natural sounds of a boat going through the wind and water, the sounds of slapping halyards will be less aggravating to them.
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Old 20-02-2016, 17:25   #332
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Admit slapping halyards may bother some people? What do you mean "admit"? I've stated this emphatically multiple times throughout this thread. Some people let slapping halyards, wind whistling, birds chirping, and children laughing bother them to no end.

The problem really isn't the noise maker, it's the person's response to it. If a halyards slaps in the empty marina, does it make a sound? (The answer is no, but that's a different matter.)

If a halyard slaps and people enjoy the sound, is it noise? (Again the answer is no.)

So if 51% of marina stayers enjoy the sound of halyards in the wind, should all be required to let their halyards slap?

Everyone can expect courtesy. Some deserve it. Some maybe not. Not everyone who deserves it, gets it. Some who don't, do.

If the halyards are getting to someone, maybe it's time they got off the dock and go sailing for a change. Maybe after a few days of fresh air, and the natural sounds of a boat going through the wind and water, the sounds of slapping halyards will be less aggravating to them.

Your suggestion for a poll sounds like even more fun than "EU - in or out?" if that's possible.

Need to think of an unbiased title though.

"Do you love musical halyards or are you a miserable old git?"

suit you OK?
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Old 20-02-2016, 20:07   #333
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If I allowed my horns to make prolonged sounds every few minutes because I forgot to turn off the fog signal (or intentionally turned them on to annoy you), is that any different than allowing one knowingly causing halyard slap? Come to think of it, during restricted visibility, it could be legal/required to sound the horns.

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Old 21-02-2016, 09:30   #334
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If I allowed my horns to make prolonged sounds every few minutes because I forgot to turn off the fog signal (or intentionally turned them on to annoy you), is that any different than allowing one knowingly causing halyard slap? Come to think of it, during restricted visibility, it could be legal/required to sound the horns.

Of course it's not the same thing.

One is a natural occurrence when any line is tensioned in the wind. Leaves, branches, and vines in trees do exactly the same thing.

There is also a big difference between not tying off halyards, and intentionally operating a horn. The latter is purposeful to make noise, the former not necessarily so.

Again, if slapping halyards bother someone, maybe they should get off the freakin' dock and go sailing, to get used to the sound of the wind in the rigging again.

If they are a power boater, their loud rumbling engines prolly annoy a lot of boaters. Perhaps they shouldn't operate them within ear shot of another boater.

Again, everyone just needs to chill and get over themselves, learn to enjoy the sounds that boats make, and be tolerant of those around them, or pick another pastime.
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No question! That is also what Good Seamanship is all about. Of course you help your fellow sailor.

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Well according to the replies you would have a 1 chance in 336 of going on the wrong boat to do a good deed. I guess a lot of those 336 replies were from the same people but you get my drift. I would also help a fellow sailor secure his boat if he were not around. If it pissed him off I would just apologize and go on my way. You can't please everyone so just do the right thing that you think is right.
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