100 Footer or Not.. That is the question

[kish]

Originally Posted by Bowdrie

You might want to change the "and" to "because".

Unlikely that anyone subscribed to this forum is seriously in the market for a 100 footer or larger mega mega yacht.

Why not a 135 footer[39 m]
Here is a description of a 135 footer Cinderella IV
https://www.boatinternational.com/ya...iv-sold--20607

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by kish

Unlikely that anyone subscribed to this forum is seriously in the market for a 100 footer or larger mega mega yacht.

Why not a 135 footer[39 m]
Here is a description of a 135 footer Cinderella IV
https://www.boatinternational.com/ya...iv-sold--20607

Yeah, the boats on that site are what the OP is thinking of I bet. I'd sure hate to have to go up the mast on a 135' sloop.

[Chotu]

I'd do it!

There is no replacement for water line length and displacement when it comes to comfort. This boat will be fantastic.

if there isn’t much of a budgetary concern, I don’t think you have to be as scared as some say.

no need to fear it.

if all of your electric systems break down (yeah right, my electric winches on my last boat were 40 years old and still working perfectly) if all of that breaks down, big deal. You shred some sails and motor in.

it’s a non-issue. That’s the voice of somebody talking about small boats and fearing the unknown

[Fore and Aft]

Who needs crew, what about Alain Colas who sailed the 240-foot club Med solo across the Atlantic!
Cheers

https://www.ina.fr/ina-eclaire-actu/...at-les-favoris

[OldManMirage]

Man, I can't believe no one has contacted me yet about funding my project...

[Montanan]

Originally Posted by Bowdrie

You might want to change the "and" to "because".

[Tillikum]

Carbon fibre? Why not something completely different like a double(?) hull in Monel? No bottom paint and no growth either.

If money were little object it would be an interesting exercise designing and building a vessel of that size that combined the desired(?) luxury and "gloss" with the ultimate durability, reliability and longevity (aka "survivability"). I suppose those features also add up to lower maintenance costs and greater resale value as well?

Something like this as the model? Might as well put the weight into the bottom plating where it can do some good as into ballast. If building in steel or another metal one can include useful features like water-tight doors.

[Bowdrie]

Originally Posted by Tillikum

Why not something completely different like a double(?) hull in Monel? No bottom paint and no growth either.

Whilst Monel would be a great material for a hull, you'd still want bottom paint.
The copper content is still too low to be considered as a "copper alloy".
A better choice for not having to use bottom paint would be what is kind of a reverse of Monel, CuNi, or copper-nickle, typically a 70/30 alloy.
With 70% Copper we don't need bottom paint, whereas Monel, (depending upon alloy,) is typically in the ~30>35% range.

[chrisr]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Yeah, the boats on that site are what the OP is thinking of I bet. I'd sure hate to have to go up the mast on a 135' sloop.

there was a boat about this size on the marina at taina (papeete) recently that had a cage-like elevator permanently attached to the mast

it's a whole different mindset on these things !

cheers,

[Bowdrie]

Originally Posted by Don C L

I'd sure hate to have to go up the mast on a 135' sloop.

Originally Posted by chrisr

there was a boat about this size on the marina at taina (papeete) recently that had a cage-like elevator permanently attached to the mast

Elevator or not, I'd have heart failure.
Back in the '90s the restored J boat Endeavour was tied up next to a boat I was working on.
Some young guy without any fear put on a climbing harness, tied the spinnaker halyard to it, (1" Dacron?,) and with two guys cranking on a coffee-grinder he went up the mast really fast, like "right now".
No thanks, not me, not ever.

[chrisr]

use high speed electric winches on TP52s etc now, and lots of potential for fun on these. recall one day we were waiting for a start (delayed account no wind)

how would you amuse the crew ? cant the keel so boat is on a 15deg list....run a kite halyard back aft...grab halyard and use high speed winch to 'flick' people off into the water. some were getting 20m into the air and landing 30-40m away

fun times...

cheers,

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by ChrisJHC

Need a lot more info before informed comments can be made.

That is a lot of boat.

If you’re looking at a luxury fitout then you’re definitely in the multi-million dollar territory.

I reckon if he's paying for labour he's in that territory with a bare hull

In the below video Grant Wharington is talking about his cut and shut on the 80ft Beau Geste taking her out to 100ft as being an economical build.
Reckons a new 100fter is around $40million.

https://fb.watch/n3bwXICRAh/?mibextid=Nif5oz

[ChrisJHC]

Originally Posted by Simi 60

I reckon if he's paying for labour he's in that territory with a bare hull

In the below video Grant Wharington is talking about his cut and shut on the 80ft Beau Geste taking her out to 100ft as being an economical build.
Reckons a new 100fter is around $40million.

https://fb.watch/n3bwXICRAh/?mibextid=Nif5oz

Is that all?
I’ll check with the wife to see if she’ll get me one for Christmas.

[Jamme]

Originally Posted by ChrisJHC

Is that all?
I’ll check with the wife to see if she’ll get me one for Christmas.

Come on. Everyone knows Christmas gifts are brought by Santa. Like this thread.

[Hasbeen]

In my experience the bigger the boat the easier it is to handle.


I don't have any modern experience with thrusters & the like, but I have run single & twin screw tourist boats in the Oz Great barrier reef including one of our old Americas cup 12 meter yachts on day trips.


I have handled from 23Ft water taxis to 130Ft launches, from 10 to 340 passengers in often difficult tidal flows & trade winds. The small boats all wanted to go their own way when stopped, the big boats would sit quietly long enough for you to get a couple of lines on them. They were a lot more comfortable when it got bumpy too.



Follow your dream, you are a long time old & wondering if you don't.