Cruising the Caribbean

[belizesailor]

Originally Posted by danielamartindm

...Big monied interests want Caribbean cruising dollars, but Caribbean governments turn a blind eye to crime against our sailing brotherhood. Sail elsewhere and they might find the resolve to stop biting the hand that feeds them.

"Big Monied Interests" could care less about chasing relative pennies from cruisers...there are much more lucrative sectors such as mainstream tourism. Except for a few cruiser hang outs and boat yards, cruisers are not a significant economic consideration in most venues.

[chuckr]

What silliness - one more arm chair sailor that should only use his boat as a drinking platform and a place to type expert information on cruising -

[StuM]

Originally Posted by danielamartindm

It seems that my post regarding the dangers of the Caribbean as a cruising destination for American sailors has been deleted. There are websites detailing the violent crimes committed against yacht owners in the waters of Caribbean nations. Go there. The governments involved have no interest in your safety or losses. Why not cruise elsewhere? Big monied interests want Caribbean cruising dollars, but Caribbean governments turn a blind eye to crime against our sailing brotherhood. Sail elsewhere and they might find the resolve to stop biting the hand that feeds them.

It may add some degree of credibility to your currently unsupported allegations if you provide links to these supposed sites.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by danielamartindm

It seems that my post regarding the dangers of the Caribbean as a cruising destination for American sailors has been deleted. There are websites detailing the violent crimes committed against yacht owners in the waters of Caribbean nations. Go there. The governments involved have no interest in your safety or losses. Why not cruise elsewhere? Big monied interests want Caribbean cruising dollars, but Caribbean governments turn a blind eye to crime against our sailing brotherhood. Sail elsewhere and they might find the resolve to stop biting the hand that feeds them.

[Cormorant]

Originally Posted by danielamartindm

It seems that my post regarding the dangers of the Caribbean as a cruising destination for American sailors has been deleted. ...

Is it this one here?

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...an-185043.html

[Catapault]

TROLL (tm)...

More than happy for the OP to take his guns and narrowminded views and stay OUT of the Caribbean, leaving it for the rest of us to enjoy in safety...

As a fairly sentient primate skipper, I'm more than happy to sail down there an enjoy the wonders that are on offer, in fair safety with FAR less caution than is needed in many cities of the world, especially many in the USA.

IMO, troubled arrogant attitude such as above, brings its own troubles down upon it....

[AiniA]

Originally Posted by danielamartindm

It seems that my post regarding the dangers of the Caribbean as a cruising destination for American sailors has been deleted. There are websites detailing the violent crimes committed against yacht owners in the waters of Caribbean nations. Go there. The governments involved have no interest in your safety or losses. Why not cruise elsewhere? Big monied interests want Caribbean cruising dollars, but Caribbean governments turn a blind eye to crime against our sailing brotherhood. Sail elsewhere and they might find the resolve to stop biting the hand that feeds them.

Glad you told me this. We were going to go back to the Caribbean this fall, which we have very much enjoyed on two extended visits, but guess we should not do this since it is so dangerous.

Have you actually cruised in the Caribbean?

[Madwand]

Originally Posted by danielamartindm

You are in dreamland. Look at the many websites that detail crimes against cruisers in the Caribbean. I suppose the question is, why are you looking to deny an obviou$ problem?

Originally Posted by danielamartindm

How about going beyond your limited experiences and statistically re viewing the crime data that occurs to the rest of cruisers who frequent the waters you've sailed? Firearms are not even an issue because of local laws. Read the statistics of crime. Personal testimonials mean nothing next to them.

This guy's never been to the Caribbean, but he's calling those that have and referring to established cruiser safety websites as "limited experience" and "dreamland," and has yet to document any of his doomsday sources.

Dr. Madwand Esquire III

[captainjay]

I live in the Caribbean. St Thomas for nearly ten years. Still safer than Chicago and Baltimore. The sailing is better to. I have also been fortunate enough to sail around parts of Puerto Rico, Culebra, St Croix, the BVI's, St Martin, and Anguila. I feel safe here sure you can find trouble if you want it and there is some petty theft around.

As for the the OP's issues with safety at Sea and cruising it seems fairly obvious that he needs to have his boat trucked to Montana. While I have never been to Flathead Lake it looks like a perfect place to whole up with some guns in the wilderness and stay safe.
Flathead Lake

[model 10]

Originally Posted by smj

Have you ever cruised in Texas or the Bahamas?

Texans are everywhere in the western Caribbean and yes I have cruised in the Bahamas. Lots of guns.

[smj]

Originally Posted by Guy

Texans are everywhere in the western Caribbean and yes I have cruised in the Bahamas. Lots of guns.

Only guns I've run across in the Bahamas were those owned by the paranoid American cruiser.


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[NoahTreat]

Originally Posted by smj

Only guns I've run across in the Bahamas were those owned by the paranoid American cruiser.


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Some say paranoid, others say prepared.

[PhiSig1071]

How arrogant are you that you think we are incapable of deciding on our own what is and isn't acceptable levels of risk? What makes you think any of us give a **** what you think?

[model 10]

Originally Posted by smj

Only guns I've run across in the Bahamas were those owned by the paranoid American cruiser.

Exactly. Almost all the cruisers are American's too.

[Kenomac]

I don't understand why you would start a thread like this unless to troll. What a terrible disposition.

It's really horrible here in the Med too.... lots of foreigners.