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Old 16-11-2015, 09:43   #61
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Do solar panels still work for those that don't believe science.
I'm sure it will operate for those. Even if they believe in global warming and a mountain of fictitious data. So even science fiction believers who are weather alarmists will benefit from using solar power on their boats. :-)
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Old 17-11-2015, 10:53   #62
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I'm sure it will operate for those. Even if they believe in global warming and a mountain of fictitious data. So even science fiction believers who are weather alarmists will benefit from using solar power on their boats. :-)

They will have no choice. With rising sea levels extensive coastal flooding power plants will overheat and blow up. Extensive brownouts inland. Global warming too.
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They will have no choice. With rising sea levels extensive coastal flooding power plants will overheat and blow up. Extensive brownouts inland. Global warming too.
Guy, I can't agree more. The best solution to global warming is to go boating and go green. Seems like a good sailboat with solar panels is the best refuge for the impending climate (hot or cold) doom that is going to strike us.

Now that I'm convinced on using the high capacity new panels that are a little larger than the less powerful alternatives I am now looking at the best as far as aesthetics for the boat regarding mounting options.

It bothers me no end that after buying a sailboat, catamaran to be more specific, and spending 100's of thousands one is left with the choice for mounting the panels on scaffolding that looks more at home on an offshore fishing runabout than on an expensive sailing craft. Don't get me wrong. Im not attacking the look of sport fishing boats. They are built to purpose. Its just that stainless steel scaffolding just doesn't look as attractive as it should on a designer sailboat.

What is surprising is that good and attractive looking design options are just not available. I would have thought since solar is now dare I say, a must have add on that the sailboat design teams don't come up with an attractive after market product. Let alone something that is well designed into their newer boats.

Lagoon is my boat of choice for good or bad. They have factory options now for solar to be added at the factory. But goodness gracious. What they offer as a solar solution is 5 year old panel technology thrown onto the back of the top of the cabin roof. Wouldn't you thing that they would put some design effort into creating a cabin roof extension that has built in max power wattage newest panel technology. My goodness if they exercised a little brain power they could have a product that would beat their competitors. Oh well. I suppose business these days isn't driven by obtaining competitive advantage through design as a way to increase market share. It is only companies like Apple that now how to do that.
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Scientists are now saying we are entering a global cooling period becaus ed of the decrease in sun activity.
No they ain't. The sun is going through the start of a cycle where there is a decrease, on average, of solar energy. The overall temperature trend is still up.

I work with a bunch of climate scientists and we are utterly screwed, the timeframe depends on when the major feedback loops start kicking off. It could be 5 years, it could be 50, could be 100.

In solar panel stuff, those who made a hard bimini out of them, did you put canvas underneath? I'd be worried about damp and mold growing there
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What is surprising is that good and attractive looking design options are just not available. I would have thought since solar is now dare I say, a must have add on that the sailboat design teams don't come up with an attractive after market product. Let alone something that is well designed into their newer boats.
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Have you seen those single accessory towers? They are sweet looking. I could see you having 2, one on each hull. They are made from a tapered AL pole/mast and look freestanding. The panel/s would mount on arms that adjust. I see them at boat shows. Somebody around here must have a name?
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Have you seen those single accessory towers? They are sweet looking. I could see you having 2, one on each hull. They are made from a tapered AL pole/mast and look freestanding. The panel/s would mount on arms that adjust. I see them at boat shows. Somebody around here must have a name?
Thanks Guy. Hope someone can come up with a name or link.

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Looks like I'm getting close to my solution. I found an arch fabricator that will do custom designs. I'm going to hand draw some concepts and then give them to a paid by the hour product designer. I know it will cost a bit but for me it will be worth having a cool industrial designer (maybe a wiz kid who's worked on Italian car design - I'm not jocking) to come up with a 2 or 3 concepts that I will be able to choose from. I'm already getting pretty excited about how cool this is going to look. Hopefully will be a huge style improvement on the stern of the Lagoon cat.

http://www.trammarches.com There are others out there.
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