I agree with Lucky, the Lavezzi
you looked at must have had something wrong with it. I've never sailed a Lavezzi but did examine it extensively at the boat shows before I bought my Belize. The Lavezzi hull
design is 'sportier' than Belize, I'm sure the weight capacity is significantly different. Plus, if I remember correctly, the saildrive
is aft of the rudder
on the Lavezzi. If you lose an engine, steerage short of 1.5-2 knots will be 'tricky' (I chartered a Lagoon 380
and tested it). Did that one have a big heavy genset stuffed in the back somewhere? In fact, the ability to hide the genset in the port engine room is one big reason I went with the Belize over Lavezzi. I like the engine rooms separate from the living space and I figured the Lavezzi genset would end up under an aft berth defeating my 'no diesel
in the living space' desire. I think you'll find resale value will follow the difference in upfront cost, so if you can afford it up front, why not?
Now for my experience with the Belize.
I wouldn't put much stock in "Some people say you need to have a minimum of 44 ft to limit pitching problems.
" I don't understand what 44 ft has to do with it, if the waves are right, a 50 ft would be pitching. Have I been in a situation where the direction I wanted to go was an uncomfortable ride? Yep! The choice is to change direction or ride it out. The bottom line is I've always felt safe. Going windward in 4-6 footers is not a problem. I've been in 12 ft. short frequency waves with horizontal torrential rain driven by 50 knots of wind for 2 hours as a front passed. I was irritated because I messed up the weather forecast
, but we dropped the sails
and motored into it, got soaked due to not having the foulies on, but we never felt unsafe. But I also remember a beam reach with 35 knots of wind rocking on the 6 footers (occasional 8s) triple reefed for 8 hours. Fully loaded fuel
(300L), water (600L), and provisions with 4 people on board making 8.5 knots. We cooked, ate, and drank beer
. Other than the occasional spray over the salon
, it was a perfect 'sailors' ride! Note: we cooked on a non-gimbeled stove top running 8.5 knots in 6 footers hitting us beam!
I mostly agree with Lucky's pros and cons, but have some comments. My hull
is #91, a 2003 model, so I might have slightly different features/equipment than Lucky.
When it comes to changing oil
in the saildrive, I agree the 38hp w/SD40 would be nice. But when it comes to motoring, the smaller lighter engine that drinks less fuel
is also nice. It's a trade
has the cat walk. It's the factory bimini, the original canvas
is showing it's age, but the frame is holding up remarkably well. It's riveted together and I thought it would fall apart within a few years. At this point, it'll be a decision whether I simply buy new canvas
or build a new welded bimini within a few years.
Folding props would be nice, shame on you FP! I run fixed 2-blade props (because they are cheap).
door does not leak! Lucky, maybe we should trade
are separate 12v compressors. The refrigerator
is fine, but the freezer could use a little more compressor
, it won't go below 0 degrees f - it won't keep the ice cream nice and frozen. We load it up with frozen meat, etc. and have kept it for 2+ weeks with no problem. The freezer stays between 0 to 10 degrees f. The good news, I shouldn't eat ice cream anyway!
I agree with all of Lucky's positives, except I do have a noise
in the galley
(something rubbing something) when we're rocking and rolling in the big stuff. I'll figure it out some day when it gets too irritating.
I also have the factory bow sprit and genaker. A nice option if you can get it!
Good Luck! And lets us know your final decision.