Mahe 36: Buying a Mahe

[Therapy]

I saw one at the Strictly Sail show in St. Pete.
The price was great.
There is plenty of head room throughout> Me=6'4"
I could fit in all the bunks.
The head was well thought out.
Only one dissapointment for me in Florida.
There was zero openings in the salon for ventilation. One hatch per hull. No opening ports.
No-can-do in Florida, sorry.

[yeloya]

Therapy,

You are absolutely right on ventilation.. Last year I chartered a Belize that had two large front opening windows + one hatch over the kitchen that we kept opened all the time. Barely enough in hot climate..
Unfortunately on my Orana to be delivered, there is also only one front opening (tiny one..) and not even a single hatch in the saloon. I didn't see additional hatches on the option list either. Nevertheless, my distributor says that it's not a big deal to add hatches on the saloon once the boat is delivered. (the cost would probably be in the order of 200-300 USd per hatch..)

Cheers

Yeloya

[pguillemin]

OK let me answer
There is one opening hatch in every cabins and one in the saloon by the mast
New Mahe will have two opening hatches in Saloon
Genoa track are almost impossible to retrofit ( Deck is infused and there is no liner so you will end up with apparent backing plate in the saloon ceiling!!!)
Furuno electronics: Problem was not with Furuno but with overcharging and server was being fried

[kevinmac]

Since this is kinda the Mahe owners or futures owners thread I hate to bring this up, but Therapy indicated that there was great headroom for tall folks like him and I (I think we are both 6' 4") in the Mahe. All true.

But Therapy, did you sit in the helm seat? I sat in the one at the St. Pete boat show, and seated comfortably there, my head was above the level of the boom. An accidental jibe could be a real disaster for the helmsman I think...

I also noticed the rigging fittings werr smaller, less robust than I expected. The Seawinds next to it had much stronger *looking* rigging, whether there is actually any strength difference I don't know, I am not a rigger.

Lastly I notice that with this boat FP has gone back to putting the anchor in a locker under the tramp, and has no walkway down the center of the tramp. Both look to me like they would make anchoring painful.

FWIW, probably about what you paid for it.

Kevin

[Therapy]

Originally Posted by kevinmac

Since this is kinda the Mahe owners or futures owners thread I hate to bring this up, but Therapy indicated that there was great headroom for tall folks like him and I (I think we are both 6' 4") in the Mahe. All true.

But Therapy, did you sit in the helm seat? I sat in the one at the St. Pete boat show, and seated comfortably there, my head was above the level of the boom. An accidental jibe could be a real disaster for the helmsman I think...

I also noticed the rigging fittings werr smaller, less robust than I expected. The Seawinds next to it had much stronger *looking* rigging, whether there is actually any strength difference I don't know, I am not a rigger.

Lastly I notice that with this boat FP has gone back to putting the anchor in a locker under the tramp, and has no walkway down the center of the tramp. Both look to me like they would make anchoring painful.

FWIW, probably about what you paid for it.

Kevin

The helm, yes. and the hard top would have to be taller also, and then the boom would have to be raised and then the sail recut etc.

Mr. Craig told me one of the options is to have a hard walkway and two small tramps. I would go for that one.

I am no rigger either.

Most people just do not realize what a handicap it is to be over 6'1".

Oh yea,
When I wrote "the price was great" I guess I should have said "the offered price was great".

I did not buy.

I am not quite ready yet. I need to save another 300k for the 1160.

[pguillemin]

Hi Guys
6'4" ...you can still sit at the helm station and not be hit by the boom.At the show we keep the boom low for looks..but the mainsail make it fly higher
Rigging.Boat because of infusion technology is a lot lighter than older cat so rigging is also smaller ( and lighter ) etc...
Mahe 49 just arrived in Fort Lauderdale after an Atlantic crossing..boat look like new.
Another Mahe went to Cape Town so miles of open ocean speak for themselves

[Scott730]

therapy
You live in Florida and you have a problem with the ventilation on the Mahe? I don't know where in Florida you live but if your depending on port holes to cool the boat you will die of heat exhaustion. Any boat will need A/C in Florida period.
I'm 6 feet and the boom will not hit me, by the way, do you use a preventor when sailing with the wind, helps prevent those accidental Gybes
The boat is an entry level cat and is very easy to sail short handed, and pretty fast in the process, so while I'm out enjoying the beautiful sailing conditions now, your pinching pennies to buy the Seawind. Sorry but I don't like to be landlocked.

[jean1146]

Good point scott.Anyway when the sail is up,the boom comes way up,no way it will hit you.As for ventilation,yes the Mahe could use more hatches,when sailing it is sufficient,when at anchor or in a Marina in the summer,anyway you will need AC.When we get older we need our little confort.....you know like cold air,good wines,and a good cook onboard.
JC.

[goldfish]

Originally Posted by jean1146

I just was wondering if they are any menbers on this forum who have ordered the new FP mahe 36'.it would be interesting to exchange thoughts about the boat.

from La Rochelle France I leave this week with the mahé number 60 is possible see the blog every day on skymate .com denis

[Therapy]

Originally Posted by pguillemin

Hi Guys
6'4" ...you can still sit at the helm station and not be hit by the boom.At the show we keep the boom low for looks..but the mainsail make it fly higher
Rigging.Boat because of infusion technology is a lot lighter than older cat so rigging is also smaller ( and lighter ) etc...
Mahe 49 just arrived in Fort Lauderdale after an Atlantic crossing..boat look like new.
Another Mahe went to Cape Town so miles of open ocean speak for themselves

Good points.
Thank you.

[Therapy]

Originally Posted by Scott730

therapy
You live in Florida and you have a problem with the ventilation on the Mahe? I don't know where in Florida you live but if your depending on port holes to cool the boat you will die of heat exhaustion. Any boat will need A/C in Florida period.
I'm 6 feet and the boom will not hit me, by the way, do you use a preventor when sailing with the wind, helps prevent those accidental Gybes
The boat is an entry level cat and is very easy to sail short handed, and pretty fast in the process, so while I'm out enjoying the beautiful sailing conditions now, your pinching pennies to buy the Seawind. Sorry but I don't like to be landlocked.

I have some time on boats with ventilation and for a good part of the time it is OK. Summer on worst days - you bet. I don't want a boat without AC but I don't want one that requires me to use AC on a day like today was because I cannot get any air to move through it.

If it is an "entry level cat" then I think it is very, very nice. I was astounded at how much room was to be had in the Mahe as compared to the Seawind 1000.
Is that "entry level" label because it is only 36 and most "real cats" are now around 40?

[pguillemin]

Therapy
Entry level as the boat was built as a first boat and we are trying to keep the price low.
Also the new Mahe have an extra opening hatch in the saloon
We just received number 49 with the hatcj=h and white gelcoat and she looks beautiful

[Scott730]

Therapy
I just got back from spending last night on my boat and I needed covers with just the hatches open. In fact I haven't needed to run the A/C for almost a month now.
You seem to make statements about the Mahe as if you have experience with the boat. When in fact you don't. The last 3 replys are from people who really do have quite a bite of experience with this particular "Real Cat".
Are there things I would change, Sure. But none of them justifys me paying a few hundred thousand dollars more for a SeaWinds or any other Cat at this point in time.
Just my opinion, based on experience, take it for what it is.

[Therapy]

Originally Posted by Scott730

You seem to make statements about the Mahe as if you have experience with the boat. When in fact you don't.

You are correct, I don't own one so I do not have experience (with a Mahe) because I don't own one.
I am shopping.
I have opinions on what I want in my boat. There are a lot of them out there and I have read thousands of posts here and know that people decide what they want in a boat. Then they buy it and for the most part will rigorously defend most if not all points brought out.
This just seems to be human nature.
I don't want to offend you.
I have been in FL for 30+ years.
I have been on a couple of boats too.
I listen to all and look at what I can.
I saw Jean1146s boat that he was kind enough to have at the show and spoke to him about the salon ventilation, among a couple of other things. His has none but will, in the near future I believe.
I will not state my negative impressions any more.

And yes, the point about pinching for a Seawind as opposed to sailing is well taken. Want to show me how things work for real?

PS - the Mahe is back on my list of possible boats.
PPS - Where else can you put the Generator?

[DtM]

John (Seadog),

I will email you a photo.

daniel