Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > Scuttlebutt > Challenges
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 16-01-2012, 17:59   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Florida
Boat: 33 Hunter Cherubini
Posts: 64
Climbing a Mast - Alone

i need to get to the top of my mast without help.

i've used a bosun's chair before with a second man to winch me up. that won't work this time.

i've thought about buying or making a rope ladder that i can haul up on a halyard, then climb.

has anyone ever done this?

is there a simple way to climb a mast that doesn't have steps?

any suggestions and experiences appreciated.

thanks.
TheScarab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 18:30   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Posts: 22
Re: climbing a mast, alone

Yes, definitely possible. I've done it myself a few times using a climbing harness and a couple of prussik cords. Make sure you have a method for coming back down again as descending on prussiks is not particularly easy. I use a second halyard and a descending device that I have rigged as a backup that I slide up with me as I climb. Then when I'm ready to come down I lock off the descender, remove the prussiks, then use the descender to abseil back to the deck.

If you don't like the idea of hanging on a couple of prussic cords you could also buy climbing ascenders. But don't forget you'll still need something to descend with as well.

I'd suggest finding a friendly climber or head down to your local climbing wall to ask someone who knows what they're doing to point you in the right direction.

Always a good idea to practise somewhere safe that you can get down from easily first. I spent an hour or 2 hanging from a beam in my garage making sure I could get up and come back down before doing it for real up a mast.

It looks like there has already been a bit of discussion on this here http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ots-36844.html
NevP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 18:45   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Whidbey Island
Boat: Bluewater Ingrid 38 Ketch- September
Posts: 82
Re: climbing a mast, alone

Hi-
I nearly always climb alone. I have a double block with becket that I haul to the masthead. There is a corosponding triple block with a cam cleat that is shackled to the eyes of my chair. I can haul myself up twice easily, and a third time with some huffing and puffing. My mast is 50'.

A triple/quad set up would be easier.

John
jrogers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 18:47   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Florida
Boat: 33 Hunter Cherubini
Posts: 64
Re: climbing a mast, alone

has anyone used something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Mounta.../dp/B0045E49ZE
TheScarab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 18:59   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Southern Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Norseman 430, Jabberwock
Posts: 1,420
Re: climbing a mast, alone

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrogers View Post
Hi-
I nearly always climb alone. I have a double block with becket that I haul to the masthead. There is a corosponding triple block with a cam cleat that is shackled to the eyes of my chair. I can haul myself up twice easily, and a third time with some huffing and puffing. My mast is 50'.

A triple/quad set up would be easier.

John
This is what I used to use, I recommend having a ratchet block attached to the boatswain's chair to ease the load on your grip.
But now I use an ATN mast climber.
ggray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 18:59   #6
Registered User
 
FSMike's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bahamas/Florida
Boat: Solaris Sunstar 36' catamaran
Posts: 2,686
Images: 5
Re: climbing a mast, alone

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrogers View Post
--- I have a double block with becket that I haul to the masthead. There is a corosponding triple block with a cam cleat that is shackled to the eyes of my chair. I can haul myself up twice easily, and a third time with some huffing and puffing. ---
A triple/quad set up would be easier.
+1 but a third time would probably kill me.
__________________
Sail Fast Live Slow
FSMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 19:06   #7
Registered User
 
osirissail's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: A real life Zombie from FL
Boat: Gulfstar 53 - Osiris
Posts: 5,416
Images: 2
Re: climbing a mast, alone

Single handing for a decade, I installed mast steps and then use an Alpine climbing harness and a fixed halyard to chase me as I climb the mast steps. If I slip or stop I hang from the fixed halyard. Getting down is different using only the steps and no halyard back up. Haven't figured out how to back up the "down" yet.
osirissail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 19:09   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Florida
Boat: 33 Hunter Cherubini
Posts: 64
Re: climbing a mast, alone

no offense guys. i know there's lots of ways to get up and down. some more sophisticated than others.

i'm just wondering if anyone has ever hoisted a ladder of some sort and walked up.

seems like a simple thing to do. just want to know if there's any downside to it i haven't thought of.
TheScarab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 19:14   #9
Marine Service Provider
 
Lin Pardey's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Kawau Island, New zealand
Boat: Lyle C. Hess owner built 29'6" cutter
Posts: 113
Re: climbing a mast, alone

Larry and I have always used a gantline - i.e. four part purchase block and tackle as described by rroger in his post. You can see a photo and diagram by clicking on this link. Cruising Tip: Working aloft

I am closer to 70 than 60 and can still take myself to the top of the mast. But even better when it comes time for the eyarly varnish up, this tackle makes it real easy for Larry to hoist me aloft, then I can let myself down bit by bit any time I wish. Best part of all is, I can swing out safely to inspect the outer edges of the spreaders using this arrangement. With mast steps (which I have tried) I felt utterly insecure trying to get out to the ends of the spreaders.
Lin Pardey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 19:16   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Florida
Boat: 33 Hunter Cherubini
Posts: 64
Re: climbing a mast, alone



lol...

thanks guys

i'm going to make a ladder.

i'll tell you how it goes - if you care.

http://www.ehow.com/how_4443215_make-rope-ladder.html
TheScarab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 19:23   #11
Moderator Emeritus
 
roverhi's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Carlsbad, CA
Boat: 1976 Sabre 28-2
Posts: 7,505
Send a message via Yahoo to roverhi
Re: climbing a mast, alone

TopClimbers - Mast Climbing Bosun's chairs. A great invention. Have replaced back, forestay, furler and done a ton of other work up the mast without the need of help other than one person for 10 minutes to support the forestay/furler when I rehoisted and installed it. The seat/harness is safe and comfortable for hours of work. Takes a little effort to climb but nothing too taxing for this 67 year old.
__________________
Peter O.
'Ae'a, Pearson 35
'Ms American Pie', Sabre 28 Mark II
roverhi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 19:37   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Minnesota
Boat: Samson 39 Encore
Posts: 99
Re: climbing a mast, alone

I use an ATN top climber but have one caution. When I first got it, it seemed like lower unit cam was tight but didn't think much about it until I was ready to come down. Faster than you can say "O ****" the lower leg unit dropped between my feet to the deck. Luckily my brother was around and could heave a line up to me. It's a great unit but you should attach a lanyard between the lower unit and upper or your belt. I know several mt climbers and they say that is standard practice. I'm over 70 and don't find it difficult either going up or down. (But not quite as easy as the 98 lb cutie they use in the ads.)
encore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 19:40   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Posts: 22
Re: climbing a mast, alone

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScarab View Post
just want to know if there's any downside to it i haven't thought of.
Depends on how much of a downside falling off and hitting the deck is I guess. It only takes a fall of a couple of metres to do some pretty serious damage. You might be as sure footed as a mountain goat but they've been known to fall of mountains too.
If using a ladder I'd probably modify osirissail's backup method by tying a prusik to a fixed halyard and then to my harness. That way you could slide the priusik up or down as you climb and it should lock on if you fall. Again there are provisos on making sure this works when you want it to so go talk to someone that can show you.
NevP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 20:31   #14
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: vancouver, canada
Boat: hunter 376
Posts: 623
Re: climbing a mast, alone

Ascenders are easier to rig than prussiks, although more expensive. They are also passive when ascending, where a prussik usually needs to be dragged along. I agree a backup is recomended, but prussiks are prone to slipping when wet, and can be mis-rigged.
shorebird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2012, 20:39   #15
Registered User
 
Dennis.G's Avatar

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Sea of Cortez and the U.P. of Michigan
Boat: Celestial 48
Posts: 904
Re: climbing a mast, alone

i'm going to make a ladder.

i'll tell you how it goes - if you care.

How to Make a Rope Ladder | eHow.com[/QUOTE]


In my opinion a rope ladder is a dangerous way to get to the top of the mast. Rope ladders are very unstable, and ending up hanging by your foot (or worse) are not uncommon results. Climbing a rope with ascenders (or jumars) mountain climber style is a much safer method. Hard to explain without seeing it done, but with some training it is pretty easy and safe.

When I was a professional ski patroller, we would practice a week on chair lift rescue with ropes every season. We found from experimentation that rope ladders were not a real option, much to dangerous.

An example:

Don't forget you need to get back down. Can use same method to climb down, or use a belay device.

These techniques have the disadvantage that really need to have someone experienced teach you how. But climbing up a tall mast is something to take seriously. Be careful.
Dennis.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
mast


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ultimate Trimaran Cruising Boat (IMHO) Jmolan Multihull Sailboats 237 05-02-2024 17:07
Installing Mast Boot with No Mast Collar ? MikeTurner Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 1 12-10-2011 08:40
Mast Down on Ranger 23 sarafina Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 2 06-09-2011 21:44
Mast Came Down, Must Repair Acedude Construction, Maintenance & Refit 7 30-08-2011 13:01
Climbing the mast in dry storage fsuhansell Construction, Maintenance & Refit 2 06-07-2011 14:52

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 19:02.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.