Boat washed up in Anguilla

[Don C L]

Well, looks like rig is there, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was mangled a lot since once the keel is broken off in the surf, the boat capsizes onto its rig while it is still in the surfline... not going to last long if it is rough. Looks like not too rough though in that shot.

[arsenelupiga]

another case of keel falling off due to rusted bolts? No damages to other parts of hull can be seen.

if i had mono would check bolts yearly.

[Don C L]

Looks like the keel took the stub with it. Doesn't look like a bolt problem. I had my boat end up in the surf once. Had some unethical folks release it from its mooring. It floated in and of course the keel drags first and hops for a while with the swells lifting and dropping the boat until it finally stops. The waves keep slopping on it and tend to knock it broadsides. As the tide drops the boat starts rocking beam-on back and forth pretty dramatically with the swells or breaking waves until the tide drops far enough that the boat stays on one side. And not only is it rocking, but the flotation of the hull vs. the weight of the keel will take advantage of any flex around the stub, and it will just start breaking there, which is how it looks to me in the photos. In my case, my boat, old Columbia 24, had a very stout, molded in keel and so there was no damage and I managed to get it yanked off the beach before the tide dropped to the point of no return.

[Sav]

Boat number should tell something... 378825 or 376825 or 378BZS maybe.

I can see rigging wire leading to a main mast and possibly a cross stay of a mizzen mast sticking up.

[robert sailor]

Originally Posted by arsenelupiga

another case of keel falling off due to rusted bolts? No damages to other parts of hull can be seen.

if i had mono would check bolts yearly.

With those comments your showing that your knowledge base is in need of upgrading.

[sailnow2011]

Originally Posted by arsenelupiga

another case of keel falling off due to rusted bolts? No damages to other parts of hull can be seen.

if i had mono would check bolts yearly.

Well built mono's like mine dont have bolts, they are integral to the hull, and would require the hull to fall off :P Just glad if I roll, I can roll back over again without a crane.

On another note if this lost the kell at sea, the bottom would be nice and clean, as it would be sailing upside down, thou there would be growth on the topside, and there is not. Its a local boat I bet.

[Hoofsmit]

Any body know if that number would be a mmsi ?
I think. IMO are commercial vessels and prefixed ?

[Hoofsmit]

I stand to be corrected
I think if USCG registered then the first two digits are its Length ?

[Sandero]

Originally Posted by Hoofsmit

I stand to be corrected
I think if USCG registered then the first two digits are its Length ?

no... 3 sets of 2 numbers for USCG documentation

[Hoofsmit]

Thanks Sandero
So, are you saying this isn't a USGC registered vessels call sign on the bow ?
37 88 25 ?

[Sandero]

Originally Posted by Hoofsmit

Thanks Sandero
So, are you saying this isn't a USGC registered vessels call sign on the bow ?
37 88 25 ?

No... the doc number is required to be cut into an interior beam... state registrations are on the bow and usually have a sticker for annual registration.


USCG website it says it needs to be permanently affixed and 3" high

The official number assigned to documented vessels, preceded by the abbreviation "NO." must be marked in block-type Arabic numerals at least three inches high on some clearly visible interior structural part of the hull. The number must be permanently affixed so that alteration, removal, or replacement would be obvious and cause some scarring or damage to the surrounding hull area.

[capt-couillon]

USCG Doc numbers are 7 digits (1257467 eg) and are normally permanently affixed to an interior location. Numbers serve strictly as identification and have no relationship to length, displacement, etc.

[Sandero]

Originally Posted by capt-couillon

USCG Doc numbers are 7 digits (1257467 eg) and are normally permanently affixed to an interior location. Numbers serve strictly as identification and have no relationship to length, displacement, etc.

My doc no is 68 99 47 been so since 8/85

[JPA Cate]

Originally Posted by Hoofsmit

Thanks Sandero
So, are you saying this isn't a USGC registered vessels call sign on the bow ?
37 88 25 ?

Hi, Hoofsmit,

Our call signs are not our vessel names, contrary to popular practice. For example, our boat's call sign had three letters followed by four numerals. We use it for SSB mainly. When asked on VHF, we will give it, but generally identify ourselves by our vessel name, and when hailed, it is by vessel name.

In Australia, when locals are asked for their call sign, they generally answer with their boat name, too. But if they ask me, I give the call sign, then the vessel name. There are some shore stations that have memberships, that answer call signs without their names. Such as "RG 082". Stands for radio group, #82.

All kinds of puzzles in the world.

Ann

[Hoofsmit]

Thanks Ann
As you say " All kinds of puzzles"
So I am no further forward finding out whether the number on this hulls bow is a US 'thing' or another countries requirement
Doing a search for HIN, SSR, IMO etc only seems to bring up alphanumeric combinations
Any body got any ideas ?