Whats the Difference Between A Coastal and Blue Water Suitable Vessel

[Rustic Charm]

Ive taken this topic from another thread which i didnt want to hijack.

It seems to me people have differences in understanding in what is Coastal Cruising, what is Ocean Cruising, and the what the safety needs of the vessel, contents, build is for each.

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[Tayana42]

I think there has been several other threads on this recently.

To my thinking, it is not a matter of a demarcation line on a chart. Coastal cruising means you can get into a sheltered harbor if weather prediction suggest the need. water sailing">Blue water sailing means you are far enough off shore (beyond say a 3 day prediction) that you have to deal with whatever weather comes at you.


S/V B'Shert

[StuM]

There's a lot more to it that just weather prediction windows.

How long will it take for assistance to reach you in the event of a mishap comes to mind.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

Ive taken this topic from another thread which i didnt want to hijack.

It seems to me people have differences in understanding in what is Coastal Cruising, what is Ocean Cruising, and the what the safety needs of the vessel, contents, build is for each.

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Coastal Cruising to me is travelling inshore along a coastline anchoring overnights where possible with occasional open water crossings of up to 3 days but never further than 200nm from the coast.. eg Biscay.
Ocean Cruising is something like the folks who do the Atlantic Circle every year.. Canaries-Caribe-Bermuda-Azores-Madeira-Canaries.. sometimes they'll get daring and visit the Continent.. but not for long..
Build, Safety, Contents... that's for each individuals different needs.. for some Less is more.. for others the More the better..

[sailorboy1]

I don't think there is any understanding or misunderstanding. There's just those that want to argue and those that don't.

[robert sailor]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Coastal Cruising to me is travelling inshore along a coastline anchoring overnights where possible with occasional open water crossings of up to 3 days but never further than 200nm from the coast.. eg Biscay.
Ocean Cruising is something like the folks who do the Atlantic Circle every year.. Canaries-Caribe-Bermuda-Azores-Madeira-Canaries.. sometimes they'll get daring and visit the Continent.. but not for long..
Build, Safety, Contents... that's for each individuals different needs.. for some Less is more.. for others the More the better..

Good explanation

[newhaul]

The difference between coastal and blue water cruising is dependant on your insurance company. Mine says that I am covered for coastal cruising up to 50 nm offshore. Anything beyond that they call blue water / offshore . M2CW

[valhalla360]

Once you get the very gray area of what is coastal vs blue water cruising out of the way you go into the even murkier world of what is a coastal vs blue water boat.

Reality is there is no official definition for either.

PS: In many ways coastal is the more challenging conditions. Far less to hit a 1000 miles from land.

[newhaul]

Sorry misread the op. So here goes again M2CW as far as a blue water vessel is concerned it seems to be a personal but well informed decision. Personally I would happily take my islander 24 to Hawaii. However at the same time there are some boats I wouldn't even want to take much further than I can swim.

[hellosailor]

"and the what the safety needs of the vessel,"
Are you on drugs? Why, the very Chairman of the White Star Lines assured me personally that lifeboats were not needed on a transatlantic high speed run, and his opinion was not changed by that Titanic incident. So if those uneducated hoi polloi that sail in potty little boats can't understand something equally simple and basic, let alone agree on it, whatever IS the problem? Those little people are always finding ways to disagree over nonsense and make noise. And babies, they breed like rabbits too.
Really. Lifeboats, radios, radio watches...there's always someone asking for more. Just find someone to escort them back off the grounds.

[Viking Sailor]

A blue water boat is a boat that when you are about to run into another boat you worry about the damage you are going to do to the other boat with no concern for any damage being done to your boat!

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Viking Sailor

A blue water boat is a boat that when you are about to run into another boat you worry about the damage you are going to do to the other boat with no concern for any damage being done to your boat!

What damage to my boat lol

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by Viking Sailor

A blue water boat is a boat that when you are about to run into another boat you worry about the damage you are going to do to the other boat with no concern for any damage being done to your boat!

So you are 1000miles from land with a density of less than 1 boat per 1000 square miles and your primary criteria is hitting other boats.

To summarize: what you are saying is all the guys waxing poetic about their blue water boats..are incompetent sailors?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by valhalla360

So you are 1000miles from land with a density of less than 1 boat per 1000 square miles and your primary criteria is hitting other boats.

To summarize: what you are saying is all the guys waxing poetic about their blue water boats..are incompetent sailors?

The thread is about the differences between costal and blue water boats not costal or blue water sailing

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by newhaul

The thread is about the differences between costal and blue water boats not costal or blue water sailing

Actually go back and read the original post. It's a bit of both but I read it as first what is coastal vs blue water cruising.

"It seems to me people have differences in understanding in what is Coastal Cruising, what is Ocean Cruising"

Then again, I wasn't the one who defined it as blue water boats are designed for the incompetent.