Whats the Difference Between A Coastal and Blue Water Suitable Vessel

[boatman61]

Sorry Polux.. disagree..
Your standard is a relatively new factory set standard.. and this standard was invented to stop imports and nothing to do with reality and safety.. tho' many don't want to accept the truth of the statement.. they feel it may devalue their boat or something..
Makes one wonder how all those folks who sailed S&S, Campers, Carters, Rivals, Westerly's, Jouet, Dufour etc all over the place without that 'A' survived... and as for 30ft being to small.. suggest its not the boat size that's the handicap.. more the mentality..
Mind.. I've got to say that.. else folk may think their little non 'A' category boats can't be delivered safely across wide bits off water.
I do know folk on 40ftrs find it extraordinary to come across someone sunbathing on a 21ftr 150 miles from land in the middle of the Biscay.. or sailing a 26ft cat in F8's up the middle of the English Channel.
How often do you hear of a Jesters Challenge boat having to be rescued.. alternate years boats limited to a max of 30ft partake in a single hander race from Plymouth to the Azores non-stop.. the following year its Plymouth to Newport.
Non have your vaunted 'A' or likely conform to it.. most make it.. some turn back through dismasting.. but.. its all 'blue water'

[Polux]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Sorry Polux.. disagree..
Your standard is a relatively new factory set standard.. and this standard was invented to stop imports and nothing to do with reality and safety.. tho' many don't want to accept the truth of the statement.. they feel it may devalue their boat or something..
Makes one wonder how all those folks who sailed S&S, Campers, Carters, Rivals, Westerly's, Jouet, Dufour etc all over the place without that 'A' survived... and as for 30ft being to small.. suggest its not the boat size that's the handicap.. more the mentality..
Mind.. I've got to say that.. else folk may think their little non 'A' category boats can't be delivered safely across wide bits off water.
I do know folk on 40ftrs find it extraordinary to come across someone sunbathing on a 21ftr 150 miles from land in the middle of the Biscay.. or sailing a 26ft cat in F8's up the middle of the English Channel.
How often do you hear of a Jesters Challenge boat having to be rescued.. alternate years boats limited to a max of 30ft partake in a single hander race from Plymouth to the Azores non-stop.. the following year its Plymouth to Newport.
Non have your vaunted 'A' or likely conform to it.. most make it.. some turn back through dismasting.. but.. its all 'blue water'

Some of those boats would pass stability standards for class A others not. The RCD started to be thought after the fastnet disaster to create more seaworthy boats.

Many of the boats that raced on that Fastnet would not pass Class A stability standards and is not by chance that RORC demands that all boats for offshore races to be Class A certified.

On the Fastnet of bad memory some of the boats had an AVS close to 100º a thing that is not possible on an Class A boat.

As I said it is a minimum but a minimum that some boats did not have before.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Polux

Some of those boats would pass stability standards for class A others not. The RCD started to be thought after the fastnet disaster to create more seaworthy boats.

Many of the boats that raced on that Fastnet would not pass Class A stability standards and is not by chance that RORC demands that all boats for offshore races to be Class A certified.

On the Fastnet of bad memory some of the boats had an AVS close to 100º a thing that is not possible on an Class A boat.

As I said it is a minimum but a minimum that some boats did not have before.

Many of the class 'A' would not have fared any better in the Fastnet.. no sane person would have raced and the race should have been abandoned as soon as they knew what was coming.
The fact that it was a race also contributed to the fiasco.. everyone was pushing to and then beyond the limit.. todays Class A break just cruising

[newhaul]

My islander was a MORC boat and not many are built to those standards these days.

[TeddyDiver]

Back before EU standard we had Nordic boat standard and but now we got this crap instead..

[robert sailor]

Originally Posted by sailorboy1

For you it's the inability to learn any new lines!

So when you can't answer a question you come up with this line?

[sailorboy1]

No you, no YOU, NO you, noooo yooou

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