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Old 25-09-2016, 09:53   #16
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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

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Hire a pro to checkout the system and install a rebuild kit, if necessary. Watch how he does it so you'll have the info you need when it next stops working.
Or buy Peggie's book and ask her here when you've addressed her queries, because she is a pro and there's no marine plumber off soundings!
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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

Listen to this..... and I will be brutally honest. Sell the head you have now and buy a composting head. (Natures Head) Save power, save on the need for a thru hull and you can close the seacock forever.
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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

Before you get too carried away ripping into the guts of your head, remove the intake hose (the smaller one) and blow into it until you're blue in the face or until you hear bubbles on the outside of the hull. This fixes the issue nine times out of ten. If you don't get bubbles then you've got a more stubborn blockage that will require removing the hose off the seacock end.
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Old 25-09-2016, 10:39   #19
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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

Solve all your head problems today and tomorrow. Get a composting toilet...Made me happy and saved my hubby days with his head in the head.
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Before you get too carried away ripping into the guts of your head, remove the intake hose (the smaller one) and blow into it until you're blue in the face or until you hear bubbles on the outside of the hull. This fixes the issue nine times out of ten. If you don't get bubbles then you've got a more stubborn blockage that will require removing the hose off the seacock end.

Ok well sounds like a good starting point. Is it the smaller hose in these pics? Click image for larger version

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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

I think Peggie has covered it but I'll put in my 2 cents.

Because your intake pump and discharge pump both run on the same motor, clean water should be coming in from the rim of the bowl at the same time black water is going out the bottom of the bowl. Hold the flush button long enough for all of the black water to go overboard or into your tank. This will help prevent build up in the hose and smell permeating the hose.

For your current problem, no water coming in, first make sure the seacock is open.

If it is open start looking for blockages in the intake.

Remove the hose from the intake pump on the toilet. Check that it is clear.
If you can get it below the waterline, water should flow from it.

If water doesn't flow, remove the hose from the seacock. Water should flow freely into the boat. If it does, the hose is blocked. If it doesn't the seacock is blocked.

If water is getting to the pump, it's time to remove the pump and inspect the impeller.

By now you should have found the problem. If you haven't, the pump is probably worn out. This is very unlikely.

This is the replacement pump assembly. Jabsco 37041-0010 Toilet Motor / Pump Assembly 12 v.

It is very unlikely you'll need this as long as the motor runs.

Since the boat is new to you, my bet would be on a closed seacock.

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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

If I had to guess based on those pics, it would be the black hose I. The second pic. But you'll need to trace it to the seawater through hull to be sure. Or post a better picture.


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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

It is not one of the hoses in the pictures you've posted. The smaller of those hoses comes from the pump to the bowl. The one you'll be wanting to blow through goes from the seacock to the pump but should be about the same diameter as the smaller one in the picture.
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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

Here is a link to instructions for your toilet in case you don't have them.
http://www.xylemflowcontrol.com/file...43000-0612.pdf
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Yes, likely the black hose.
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It is not one of the hoses in the pictures you've posted. The smaller of those hoses comes from the pump to the bowl. The one you'll be wanting to blow through goes from the seacock to the pump but should be about the same diameter as the smaller one in the picture.
My money is on the black.

Take a look at part 28 in the expanded diagram of the pump. The raw water inlet is on the left side as you look at it which is where the black hose seems to be going.
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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

I am going to jump in with the simplest, best solution. IMHO marine heads are a total FUBAR from the beginning. Dealing with them is always a pain. They end up always needing some sort of repair, and your non-nautical friends will break them if you don't. We're not cruisers out for a long, long time, so we use these:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Tra...-Bags/14550463
They fit over the bowl, do your number. They seal, pop em in the trash, they don't smell and if you are out for only a few days - week, you'll always have a sweet smelling head, an easy clean up, no blackwater to deal with, and an all around better time.
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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

Ah, CF is a great place. It even caused me to agree with Sailmonkey! I think you need to do some it yourself, like find the repair manual, have a few parts on board, and learn which ones they are, but as an encouragement, here is where you can download the owner's manual:
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Welcome aboard. Do keep asking questions. There are few that go unanswered here, although too often our answers are, well, too be kind, convoluted.
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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

Thanks guys and gals for getting me pointed in the right direction. Just like owning a home, it's always interesting to deal with previous owners work/sins!

Thanks for getting me off to a good start, I will head out and report back!


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Re: New Guy! Needs Help with Toilet (possibly to save marriage!)

I have the exactly same issue and I posted a question on CF couple of weeks ago. I did not have a solution yet and I cannot find a solution on the answers here as well.

Try the following: place the hose from the pump in your bucket (full of water) and see if it sucks water
Mine is blowing air instead and drive me crazy, I will dismantle the thing tomorrow

Btw mine is a TMC

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