Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 28-07-2017, 01:37   #61
Registered User

Join Date: May 2017
Location: Coastal GA.
Boat: Presto 36
Posts: 288
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

The aluminum beams hopefully will do the trick structurally , however they are not very appealing to the eye given the overall look of the rest of your vessel. Have you given any thought as to covering them? Perhaps some cordage wrapped around them?
Seabeau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2017, 08:02   #62
Registered User
 
honey badger's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: On the cat.
Boat: wharram tiki 26
Posts: 95
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seabeau View Post
The aluminum beams hopefully will do the trick structurally , however they are not very appealing to the eye given the overall look of the rest of your vessel. Have you given any thought as to covering them? Perhaps some cordage wrapped around them?
Oh yes mate.The ends will be capped in timber.I will paint them too.Once the deck is laid over the top of the beams not much of them will be exposed.
honey badger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2017, 08:22   #63
Registered User
 
honey badger's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: On the cat.
Boat: wharram tiki 26
Posts: 95
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

So today the boat will be getting it's first coat of epoxy paint.
Like a lot of things on this build we will be using a modern epoxy floor coating paint. It is as hard as a hookers heart and thicker than regular paint.

On my mate Richards advice I have not sanded to aggressively around the keels.The thinking is to allow the existing cloth to absord the new application.
This is music to my ears as anyone who has sanded an old hull will know.

Once the coat has gone off I will be able to see those inevitable imperfections more easily.
honey badger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2017, 08:25   #64
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pacific NW
Boat: Hedley Nicol Vagabond MK2, 37'
Posts: 1,110
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

Quote:
Originally Posted by honey badger View Post
This how I go about fixing soft spots.This repair is located at the stern post.Attachment 152868Attachment 152869Attachment 152870
You can get away with this on the Wharram classic construction with the wide ribbands but I'd bevel the edges of the hole and patch piece for overlapping scarfs. It's a bit mor work but stronger as the skin will carry the loads as well as the stringers and frames.
Cavalier MK2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2017, 22:27   #65
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fremantle
Posts: 559
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

Honey Badger, don't make it too hard to inspect for fatigue.
Redreuben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-07-2017, 22:28   #66
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fremantle
Posts: 559
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

I was talking about your beams [emoji2]
Redreuben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2017, 09:07   #67
Registered User
 
honey badger's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: On the cat.
Boat: wharram tiki 26
Posts: 95
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cavalier MK2 View Post
You can get away with this on the Wharram classic construction with the wide ribbands but I'd bevel the edges of the hole and patch piece for overlapping scarfs. It's a bit mor work but stronger as the skin will carry the loads as well as the stringers and frames.
Good tip.
honey badger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2017, 09:15   #68
Registered User
 
honey badger's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: On the cat.
Boat: wharram tiki 26
Posts: 95
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redreuben View Post
Honey Badger, don't make it too hard to inspect for fatigue.
No worries mate.The nature of the aluminium plank construction makes me doubt that a catastrophic failure would occur.
Essentially each plank has 3 box sections.
A boat building mob north of here makes house boats out of them.The hulls being entirely made up of scaffolding planks.
honey badger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2017, 09:19   #69
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pacific NW
Boat: Hedley Nicol Vagabond MK2, 37'
Posts: 1,110
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

I can't recall how thick the ply is on a Narai but figure 6 to 1 on up to 8 to 1 is plenty for a 4 sided scarf patch. Anything helps but a couple inches on the overlaps anyway. A great too for this sort of thing is one of the multitools that plunge and flush cut with a narrow blade. You can also put adesive sand paper on the flat of the blade for smoothing things out. With thickened epoxy it doesn't need to be perfect but it is easy to get the hang of.

For butt joints in ply that don't have room for a conventional backing block a piece of heavier glass cloth like 10 oz can be put over the area on the inside crossing stringers etc... for enough overlap.
Cavalier MK2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2017, 16:54   #70
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Texas
Boat: Wharram Narai MKIV (building)
Posts: 20
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman61 View Post
Why dont you construct Tiki style H beams instead of metal or solid wood.. the Narai was designed in days pre epoxy and the modern H beams are just as strong but lighter.

Hmmm. My extended Tiki 46 style "H" Beams for my Narai are nearly 400lbs each. Light is not a word I would use to describe them. However, I would not personally substitute aluminum for them.

WharramMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2017, 17:55   #71
Registered User
 
honey badger's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: On the cat.
Boat: wharram tiki 26
Posts: 95
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

Those are real purty mate.😁
honey badger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-07-2017, 17:57   #72
Registered User
 
honey badger's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: On the cat.
Boat: wharram tiki 26
Posts: 95
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

Today we covered the mouldy mustard look with a coat of epoxy floor paint .After a billion hours of sanding.Click image for larger version

Name:	20170730_083509.jpg
Views:	232
Size:	168.1 KB
ID:	152973Click image for larger version

Name:	20170730_100038.jpg
Views:	216
Size:	153.4 KB
ID:	152974Click image for larger version

Name:	20170730_100100.jpg
Views:	349
Size:	216.5 KB
ID:	152975
honey badger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2017, 19:40   #73
Registered User
 
44'cruisingcat's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,398
Images: 69
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

Only one billion hours? You taking shortcuts?
__________________
"You CANNOT be serious!"


John McEnroe
44'cruisingcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2017, 19:56   #74
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fremantle
Posts: 559
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

Maybe it was a 1200 wet&dry finish !

Tell you what it will be a billion hours to anyone who wants to sand that floor paint !
Redreuben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2017, 22:08   #75
Registered User
 
44'cruisingcat's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,398
Images: 69
Re: Wharram Narai MK lV .

Looking heaps better already.
__________________
"You CANNOT be serious!"


John McEnroe
44'cruisingcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
wharram


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
52' Wharram aldiver Multihull Sailboats 26 04-03-2011 06:53
Wharram Florida Rendevous boatsmith Cruising News & Events 0 02-05-2009 09:16
pahi 42 wharram cat for sale Finditsurfit Classifieds Archive 6 27-12-2008 12:17
Wharram Catamaran SkiprJohn Multihull Sailboats 6 12-08-2007 20:03
Wharram 23 (New to Cats) SkiprJohn Multihull Sailboats 0 13-04-2007 11:09

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 18:55.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.