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03-04-2010, 15:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Portsmouth
Boat: Princess 45
Posts: 1
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Sailing Jacket Makes Me Look Fat !
I have just joined as I am researching for a new business venture and keen to find out what the community want from sailing clothing. I have a factory in China that is producing sailing jackets and we are currently redesigning a range specifically for women as my wife is continuously complaining that sailing jackets are like tents and she looks fat! Of course i disagree
So my hope is to find out if this is really true and what I can do about it. If there are any women sailors out there who agree?
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03-04-2010, 16:38
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,441
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Just make it good quality - waterproof and to last. If you make it 'for looks' then you may get some silly people buy it, but not sailors.
The big and practically unaddressed challenge is to make the bibs so that one (she or he) can pee without taking all the shells off (meaning - pee outside). Solve this one and you have your USP, even if it is not in pink.
one fat barnia
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03-04-2010, 16:50
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 139
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A lot of people are fat. Clothes usually don't make skinny people look fat. Fat makes skinny people look fat. I was sailing in the BVI a few weeks ago and Yacht Shots took my picture. When I looked at it, I thought, "gee, these pictures really make me look fat." Then I looked in a mirror, and guess what! I'm fat!!! I'm going to look fat no matter what I wear -- Helly Hansen, Guy Cotten, Henri Llyod, or Gill.
Unless someone is a "dock captain" or owner with paid crew, I don't sailors have much concern for appearances. 300 miles out in the ocean, most sailors only think about functionality, and so far as for looks, a lot don't even shave, brush their hair, or even take a shower when at sea.
I think what you are talking about with vanity sailing clothes is the type that go to the store and buy Nautica and pay about three times what it is worth to look like a sailor, but don't have a clue about how to tie a bowline. But then . . . I've even seen people wearing Nautica that look fat.
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11-05-2010, 09:37
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C.L.O.D
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 8,232
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Originally Posted by TEE
A lot of people are fat. Clothes usually don't make skinny people look fat. Fat makes skinny people look fat. I was sailing in the BVI a few weeks ago and Yacht Shots took my picture. When I looked at it, I thought, "gee, these pictures really make me look fat." Then I looked in a mirror, and guess what! I'm fat!!! I'm going to look fat no matter what I wear -- Helly Hansen, Guy Cotten, Henri Llyod, or Gill.
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There seem to be many cynical people here. Perhaps not many of you are fat. The problem with fat is it takes effort to get off, and if this here gentlemen starting the post can make me a jacket that makes me look slim and keeps me dry, then I'll love him forever. Regardless of whether he already has a wife or not!!
I will admit tho, I use my ski clothes as wet weather gear - and it works, but makes me look like a cross between the michelin man and -um, ok just like the michelin man wearing a red jacket! If only I could have salopettes that hug my curvy hips, and even hold them in a bit, that would be great. And a jacket that emphasises my double d cup, and curvy ass, whilst corseting in my tummy that would be great, please.
If you manage it, send me a set and I'll sea trial them for you. Free of charge.
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03-04-2010, 16:52
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Originally Posted by duffers2010
my wife is continuously complaining that sailing jackets are like tents and she looks fat! Of course i disagree
So my hope is to find out if this is really true
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Scales?
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and what I can do about it.
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Get her to haul the anchor manually?
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03-04-2010, 17:37
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Seattle
Boat: Cal 40 (sold). Still have a Hobie 20
Posts: 2,948
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Interesting that guys are responding to a female viewpoint question. Our answers aren't valid. Another forum had a similar question for another article of lightweight clothing for warmth, and the women's responses weren't anywhere close to what has been posted above.
I await the female response.
John
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03-04-2010, 19:03
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Puget Sound
Boat: Irwin 41 CC Ketch
Posts: 2,878
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Originally Posted by cal40john
Interesting that guys are responding to a female viewpoint question. Our answers aren't valid. Another forum had a similar question for another article of lightweight clothing for warmth, and the women's responses weren't anywhere close to what has been posted above.
I await the female response.
John
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I agree...I like my little woman's curves to show through the functionality....It can be done...
If I might direct you in some way...look at women's riding attire...you will find some great ideas there...
Here...... start here.
http://www.doversaddlery.com/devon-a...X1-35519/cn/6/
Figure out how to make them water proof , warm or cool and breathable and you have a winner on the water.
Same with jackets...use lots of pleats( or whatever you call them) at the back of shoulders so they open with their movement insted of being a bag of bulk...with tapered waistline's..and contoured chest lines.
Browsing Store - Mountain Horse Transition Jacket
Go for it ..I'll be your first coustomer.
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03-04-2010, 18:54
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hayes, VA
Boat: Gozzard 36
Posts: 8,700
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I have just joined as I am researching for a new business venture and keen to find out what the community want from sailing clothing.
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There really are two markets for sailing clothing. Stuff you wear on land and you can sell to folks that like the idea of being on the water more than actually being there. This would be where you make money. Then there is the clothing you want when you are out on the water and it's "not a nice day". Nobody looks too fat in a storm or when it's cold and or wet. This would be the stuff that is hideaously expensive to make and few people buy.
It's about looking like more than you are. It's magic and it's hard. If you can get a vison of what people who won't be on the water would want to look like as if they were you are ready to put factory people to work. At that point your wife can go out and buy what she likes even if you don't make it. How do you sail a Princess 45?
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04-04-2010, 19:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Savusavu, Fiji
Boat: 41' Tartan TOCK
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I'm a 44 year old sailing, cruising, woman, wife, mom. I live on my boat with my family. All I care about in safety gear is that it works... and I am always looking for a deal. Since 'boat' and 'economical' aren't real synonymous, the 'deal' part presents a problem sometimes. But where safety is concerned I could care less how I look and I will buy based on ratings v.s. if it's the cheapest model. I am not fat and if I look fat in my safety gear then it is less likely my husband will try to take it off. Ha-ha!
Maybe you're looking more at marketing to day sailor types or cocktail cruisers?
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04-04-2010, 20:52
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: North of Baltimore
Boat: Ericson 27 & 18' Herrmann Catboat
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weather gear">Foul weather gear is like a tent.....Keeping in mind you will be wearing layers.
I think they need to make Inlatable PFDs to accomodate well endowed women.
A female friend of mine gave me her unused one because it was awkward and uncomfortable...and "got in the way"
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04-04-2010, 21:42
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Moderator... short for Cat Wrangler
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Francisco
Boat: Cal 28 Flush Deck
Posts: 5,559
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Your wife's coat doesn't make her look fat.
It makes her look warm and dry and smart!
But I have to confess I just ordered gear from lands end, rated down to -10 f and still smart looking in a petite cut that will fit over tights, t shirt, long undies, turtleneck, polar-fleece jacket and polar-fleece vest.
In a really pretty turquoise that goes with my eyes AND looks good with the boat!
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18-04-2010, 11:50
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
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Originally Posted by sarafina
Your wife's coat doesn't make her look fat.
It makes her look warm and dry and smart!
But I have to confess I just ordered gear from lands end, rated down to -10 f and still smart looking in a petite cut that will fit over tights, t shirt, long undies, turtleneck, polar-fleece jacket and polar-fleece vest.
In a really pretty turquoise that goes with my eyes AND looks good with the boat!
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We're waiting for pics ....... i2f
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11-05-2010, 11:32
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 250
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In a really pretty turquoise that goes with my eyes AND looks good with the boat!
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Hopefully you are a strong swimmer - if you go over the side, you'll realize that turquoise goes pretty good with the water that's trying to drown you too!
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04-04-2010, 21:50
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia & Cape Coral
Boat: Beneteau 311
Posts: 153
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Only useful for men, but there is a life jacket with the foam sculptured like pectorals, a bit like batman's attire. I want one.
Bill
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18-04-2010, 11:25
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Nicholasville, Kentucky
Boat: 15 foot Canoe
Posts: 14,191
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Aloha and welcome aboard!
I'll look forward to your new line of safety gear. "Victoria's Sailing Safety Secret."
kind regards,
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