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[garyfdl]

Re: Russian subs.

Interesting but, as an ex-bubble head - not the big of a deal IMO. Especially given today's technology (i.e. sonar).

Basically it's a publicity stunt by the Russians making a geopolitical statement / Putin's running around waving his arms saying "Look at us! Look at us!"

[geoleo]

Originally Posted by jimbunyard

In the US, you get what you pay for, as long as you make at least more than about half of what everyone else does.

If you make less than half, you get nothing at all, at least representational-wise.

And even for the 'lucky' ones that 'make' more than half, their representation is directly proportional to their position in the myopic, conspicuously-consuming hierarchy...here, we, oops, I mean they, get all the benefits of an oligarchic/plutocratic/kleptocratic, pseudo- capitalistic military-industrial-medical complex-run 'society', whilst we get to drink a beer, gawk at each other on a-social media and bitch about paying them for their, and our (to a very slightly lesser extent), role in screwing up the rest of the world for the forseeable future.

You dont seem to ba a optimistic type.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by garyfdl

Re: Russian subs.

Interesting but, as an ex-bubble head - not the big of a deal IMO. Especially given today's technology (i.e. sonar).

Basically it's a publicity stunt by the Russians making a geopolitical statement / Putin's running around waving his arms saying "Look at us! Look at us!"

Agreed afterall look at the north pole in 1987.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Agreed afterall look at the north pole in 1987.

Odd.
At the time [Apr 5, 2018], Popular Mechanics reported it as The British submarine HMS “Trenchant”, and America's Seawolf-class USS “Connecticut”, and Los Angeles-class USS “Hartford”.


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From left to right, the USS Connecticut, the USS Hartford, and the HMS Trenchant surface in the Arctic during ICEX 2018. U.S. Navy/Darryl I. WoodFlickr

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Odd.
At the time [Apr 5, 2018], Popular Mechanics reported it as The British submarine HMS “Trenchant”, and America's Seawolf-class USS “Connecticut”, and Los Angeles-class USS “Hartford”.


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From left to right, the USS Connecticut, the USS Hartford, and the HMS Trenchant surface in the Arctic during ICEX 2018. U.S. Navy/Darryl I. WoodFlickr

Yep then as well but run ships registry numbers and compare silhouettes

[GordMay]

“Arctic-Deployed Navy Submarines Participate in Ice Exercise 2018
March 13, 2018" ~ bY Navy Cmdr. Corey B. Barker, Submarine Force Pacific

Originally Posted by Cmdr Barker

The Navy’s fast attack submarines USS Hartford and USS Connecticut both surfaced in the Arctic Circle north of Alaska during the multinational maritime Ice Exercise 2018, March 10.
ICEX 2018 is a five-week exercise that allows the Navy to assess its operational readiness in the Arctic, increase experience in the region, advance understanding of the Arctic environment and continue to develop relationships with other services, allies and partner organizations.
Both submarines, as well the U.K. Royal Navy submarine HMS Trenchant, are participating in the biennial exercise in the Arctic to train and validate the warfighting capabilities of submarines in extreme cold-water conditions...

More ➥ https://www.defense.gov/News/News-St...exercise-2018/

The submarine USS Connecticut and fast-attack submarine USS Hartford breakthrough the ice in support of Ice Exercise 2018 near Ice Camp Skate in the Arctic Circle, March 10, 2018.
Navy photo by Petty Officer 2nd Class Micheal H. Lee

So, where did your photo originate?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by GordMay

“Arctic-Deployed Navy Submarines Participate in Ice Exercise 2018
March 13, 2018" ~ bY Navy Cmdr. Corey B. Barker, Submarine Force Pacific

More ➥ https://www.defense.gov/News/News-St...exercise-2018/

The submarine USS Connecticut and fast-attack submarine USS Hartford breakthrough the ice in support of Ice Exercise 2018 near Ice Camp Skate in the Arctic Circle, March 10, 2018.
Navy photo by Petty Officer 2nd Class Micheal H. Lee

So, where did your photo originate?

The Top of the World

Or this


https://www.sublant.usff.navy.mil/ASL/


1987*USS BILLFISH (SSN 676), CDR F. Terry Jones (Jeffrey Gossett), USS SEA DEVIL (SSN 664), CDR Dennis A. Napior (Douglas Shaefer), and HMS SUPERB (S 109), CDR James Collins (Don Stephens), conducted the first multi-national 3-ship rendezvous at the North Pole

[ImaginaryNumber]

It's 65 Degrees in Alaska—in December

https://gizmodo.com/alaska-broke-its-all-time-december-heat-records-1848277124

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by ImaginaryNumber

It's 65 Degrees in Alaska—in December

https://gizmodo.com/alaska-broke-its...rds-1848277124

Look at the jet stream it always does this type stuff in a low solar activity period.

Average is about 40°F in December. Saturday will be -17°F
Bet we get record cold temps there in January. Or at least close .
Heck it's only 16°F in fairbanks . And forecast to be -30 on Sunday.

Heck here in Seattle we have had a record high temperature the lowest high in December only 24° F.

It's called weather so big deal

[GordMay]

Oddity Solved: The 1987 photo of HMS Superb, USS Billfish, and USS Sea Devil in a North Pole rendezvous, was taken during a visit to the pole - not during a simultaneous ice breaktrough, which is somewhat of a 'big deal'.
Your is an entirely different story, and achievement, not directly related to the stories, under discussion.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Oddity Solved: The 1987 photo of HMS Superb, USS Billfish, and USS Sea Devil in a North Pole rendezvous, was taken during a visit to the pole - not during a simultaneous ice breaktrough, which is somewhat of a 'big deal'.
Your is an entirely different story, and achievement, not directly related to the stories, under discussion.

Actually shows that we had the navigational technology well over 30 years ago so doing it now is like no big deal .

However one would have " by the wordings of the msm " the Russians breaking through 1.5 meters of sea ice in the barents sea in December would be happening at the end of winter . And the end of winter 1987 rendezvous to have happened in the beginning of winter this year . It's an optical of the state of sea ice through the decades

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Oddity Solved: The 1987 photo of HMS Superb, USS Billfish, and USS Sea Devil in a North Pole rendezvous, was taken during a visit to the pole - not during a simultaneous ice breaktrough, which is somewhat of a 'big deal'.
Your is an entirely different story, and achievement, not directly related to the stories, under discussion.

The actual positioning of 3 subs in the same vicinity of the ocean is not any real accomplishment for those that know the navigating capability and sonar mapping ability of modern subs .

It's purely optics for 5hose that don't know. Saying see what we can do we are the big kid on the block .

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by newhaul

The actual positioning of 3 subs in the same vicinity of the ocean is not any real accomplishment for those that know the navigating capability and sonar mapping ability of modern subs .
It's purely optics for 5hose that don't know. Saying see what we can do we are the big kid on the block .

“From a military, geographic, and scientific perspective, the Arctic Ocean is truly unique, and remains one of the most challenging ocean environments on earth,”said Navy Rear Admiral James Pitts, commander of the Undersea Warfighting Development Center.



But, what would he know, compared to our own infallible truck driver?

[goboatingnow]

Russia has long had designs on the Artic Ocean. It has planted flags on the bottom and other stunts. This stunt is in the same vein.

Of course the military is used by every nation as a propaganda machine from time to time

[GordMay]

Year in Review [2021] ~ by ScienceNews
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* ➥ https://www.sciencenews.org/article-type/year-in-review


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