Personal Responsibility

[sailorboy1]

There's RULES!

My personal responsibility only applies to when things go right! (kidding)

As far as posting goes; if you read enough of the threads here you will discover you can say a lot of pretty negative stuff here. As long as you don't attack people by name, go way into poltical type stuff etc. The only time I have gotten slapped was on a finance thread when I provided a company rep by name and then suggested she was a B****.

And I agree about Sailnet, if you ask a beginner question you better be ready for the fallout.

[Canibul]

being a 'huge fan of personal responsibility' etc etc. is kinda like declaring you have a sense of fair play where one's mortal enemies are concerned. It only works if the other side agrees with your standards. And they never do.

[DennisM]

Personally, I'm opposed to personal responsibility of any kind. My motto is, "Be irresponsible, and blame others."

[mintyspilot]

Originally Posted by Surveyor

Go to Sailnet and type "I have a dream to sail" in a post. You will planted face first in the asphalt of the virtual marina and trampled before you get to the dock.

I think I'll try that - sounds like a laugh....

[Neo]

Originally Posted by Surveyor

Go to Sailnet and type "I have a dream to sail" in a post. You will planted face first in the asphalt of the virtual marina and trampled before you get to the dock.

I am a newbie and I have a dream, and indeed I was blow away (no pun intended) by how helpful and welcoming the members of this forum have been. Cheers.

[BubbleHeadMd]

Originally Posted by Surveyor

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There are worse forums. Go to Sailnet and type "I have a dream to sail" in a post. You will planted face first in the asphalt of the virtual marina and trampled before you get to the dock. A totally negative atmosphere for newbies. <snip>

snicker... No kidding. SN in some circles is known as an "anti-sailing" forum. There's like, one encouraging guy over there, and they pound on him regularly. He likes "poking the bear" though, so he stays there.

Back to the original post-

No matter how many times I re-read it, I cannot find any value in it. It simply looks like an attempt to stir up debate over nothing, to satisfy the OP's desire for debate. Perhaps s/he would better enjoy joining Toastmaster's or a professional debate team instead of trying to twist a sailing forum into their personal playground?

[boatman61]

BUBBLES...... H^5..
Thought this was gonna be boat related.... Yawn..
But.. gonna have to try out SN... sounds like it could be fun.... hehehehehe

[BubbleHeadMd]

Oh, please do. They'll LOVE you over there.

[sailorboy1]

Just to stir it some more; there are lots of members here who are also on Sailnet. Pretty easy to tell because they use same name on both.

But for some if you read their posts here and on SN you would believe they are 2 different people completely! There is a memeber here who was so insulting to me on SN over a year ago to the point I have never posted on SN again. But it was a long time after that before I noted it was the same person here.Nt to say we don't have our as...... here, but...

[boatman61]

Wow... bit elitist over there... I'm now a Junior Member of SN....
Makes me feel intimidated already.... hahahahaha

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Wow... bit elitist over there... I'm now a Junior Member of SN....
Makes me feel intimidated already.... hahahahaha

OK... snooped around what I thought may be 'Lively Threads' n fell asleep...
think I'll stick with the fun here... sorry guys n gal's.....

[hummingway]

Originally Posted by Puddlefish

I'm new to this forum, and still am a bit confused about the moderation rules, but I'll try to stick to them, because I'm a rule following kind of guy. That being said, I find it kind of poor sportsmanship to censor threads in one direction. I'm not sure why certain topics aren't allowed to be debated, such as "guns on board" or "anything other than positive" threads. If there's too much debate on such issues, then create a new forum for such issues so as not to clutter up the specific purpose forums. I find it counterproductive to learning to limit my conversations only with like minded individuals.

In the interest of debate I think presenting your point up front and eliminating the first two paragraphs would have helped. In the interest of fair debate it would have been helpful if you cited specific instances where your point of view had resulted in the censorship you ar refering to.

Originally Posted by Puddlefish

Comments welcome.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Puddlefish

Thanks for taking the time to discuss my concerns. (not so much for calling me disengenuous, but I'm pretty hard to offend.)

If you reread the post you will see he suggested you were "being disengenous", which seems to me a not uncommon thing in debate, not that you "were disengenous". I can see how you would consider the latter an insult but not the former.

[boatman61]

Hummingway... folks will always see what they want... which is not always what is... even in face to face conversations...
but there... an instant response often defuses things fast... in this 'Medium' its much harder...
I try to use the 'We're all mates attitude' with the occasional... "Yayyy.. Gotcha"..
Its offended some but thats life.... can't kiss ass 24/7...
Sorry.. change that to... "Won't kiss ass... Period"