Urethane Bed Liner As An Alternative To Topside Paint?

[sailortype]

let's start calling the mast the boom then.
It will eventually become quite clear from the context what the OP is referring to

[Raven Odyssey]

Originally Posted by sailortype

let's start calling the mast the boom then.
It will eventually become quite clear from the context what the OP is referring to

Apparently, you get hung up, easily, on nomenclature. Good for you, I'm sure it makes you a much better sailor.

[sailortype]

if you were a sailor at all you would know that nomenclature is what sailboats are about. This is now silly.

[Raven Odyssey]

Originally Posted by sailortype

if you were a sailor at all you would know that nomenclature is what sailboats are about. This is now silly.

I guess 40,000 sea miles and a 100T license aren't adequate for calling myself a sailor? Ok.

Here I thought sailboats were all about harnessing the wind as a means of propulsion...boy was I wrong! I guess I'll sell my boat and buy a dictionary. Then, I'll be able to call myself a sailor, just like you.

Rather than trying to help the OP out with advice, you would rather critique his knowledge/misuse of terms. That's precisely why this forum is nearly useless to people new to the lifestyle.

[Scout 30]

Originally Posted by Raven Odyssey

I guess 40,000 sea miles and a 100T license aren't adequate for calling myself a sailor? Ok.

Here I thought sailboats were all about harnessing the wind as a means of propulsion...boy was I wrong! I guess I'll sell my boat and buy a dictionary. Then, I'll be able to call myself a sailor, just like you.

Rather than trying to help the OP out with advice, you would rather critique his knowledge/misuse of terms. That's precisely why this forum is nearly useless to people new to the lifestyle.

Knowing the correct terminology is an essential part of safe boating. When an inexperience person posts a mistake on what is supposed to be cruising forum it's the responsibility of experience boaters to correct them. Sharing knowledge is the fundamental reason people come to this site. Attacking a member for sharing knowledge is not only argumentative, it's counter productive.

[Raven Odyssey]

Originally Posted by Scout 30

Knowing the correct terminology is an essential part of safe boating. When an inexperience person posts a mistake on what is supposed to be cruising forum it's the responsibility of experience boaters to correct them. Sharing knowledge is the fundamental reason people come to this site. Attacking a member for sharing knowledge is not only argumentative, it's counter productive.

Agreed. And there is a way to share such knowledge without provoking the argument.

Originally Posted by sailortype

let's start calling the mast the boom then.
It will eventually become quite clear from the context what the OP is referring to

Originally Posted by sailortype

if you were a sailor at all you would know that nomenclature is what sailboats are about. This is now silly.

[Souzag818]

Originally Posted by Raven Odyssey

Apparently, you get hung up, easily, on nomenclature. Good for you, I'm sure it makes you a much better sailor.

Not gonna get into a pissing contest, but I have to go with sailor type on this. Sailing is ALL about nomenclature- ropes are lines, port is left, sheets are...you get the picture. Sailortype was merely pointing this out and I don't think he was out of line. As far as making him/her a better sailor, I was once tactician in a race and called for the novice helmsman to fall off a little. He instead, headed up, and we nearly t-boned a competitor! He later explained that he didn't know what fall off meant. Nomenclature...

[Raven Odyssey]

Originally Posted by Souzag818

Not gonna get into a pissing contest, but I have to go with sailor type on this. Sailing is ALL about nomenclature- ropes are lines, port is left, sheets are...you get the picture. Sailortype was merely pointing this out and I don't think he was out of line. As far as making him/her a better sailor, I was once tactician in a race and called for the novice helmsman to fall off a little. He instead, headed up, and we nearly t-boned a competitor! He later explained that he didn't know what fall off meant. Nomenclature...

Really? Sailing is ALL about nomenclature?

Granted, it's good and proper to use the correct terms. But it is also possible to be a great sailor without specifically using those terms ALL the time in EVERY situation.

[rwidman]

This (the truck bed paint, not the arguing) reminds me of the current post where someone was asking about repairing his deck with concrete. My advice is, if you can't or won't do it right, don't do it at all. Don't make a proper repair more difficult or impossible.

Use paint made for the purpose. Marine topside (or whatever) paint.

[Scout 30]

Originally Posted by Raven Odyssey

Really? Sailing is ALL about nomenclature?

Granted, it's good and proper to use the correct terms. But it is also possible to be a great sailor without specifically using those terms ALL the time in EVERY situation.

There's a big difference between knowing a term & not using it & not knowing what the term means in the first place. I have to say it's surprising to hear some with as much experience as you say you have say that calling things by their proper names on a boat is not necessary. When there's an emergency & you need to communicate quickly & clearly it's important for sailors to know what things are called so there's no confusion.

[Raven Odyssey]

Originally Posted by Scout 30

There's a big difference between knowing a term & not using it & not knowing what the term means in the first place. I have to say it's surprising to hear some with as much experience as you say you have say that calling things by their proper names on a boat is not necessary. When there's an emergency & you need to communicate quickly & clearly it's important for sailors to know what things are called so there's no confusion.

Go back and re-read every comment I made. Not once did I say it was unnecessary to use the proper terms for parts of a boat. I simply stated that the OP's intent was pretty clear even though he misused the term "topsides." I also disagreed with the totality of the statement that sailing is "ALL" about the nomenclature. Clearly, it is not - regardless of the importance of usage and knowledge of such.

My argumentative stance was in response to the sarcastic comment that followed. My point remains: very few of the comments left on this thread do anything to help the OP. Critique of his terminology was not necessary to further the thread, and could have been done in a much more productive way.

[mitiempo]

Originally Posted by Raven Odyssey

True. However, I think it is quite clear what the OP meant.

I agree the nomenclature is important.

If the op contracted someone to paint his topsides but meant the deck he would be very surprised at the results!

[bailsout]

Yeah, I'm getting to old to use language. Just use pictures or body language.

[SV Bacchus]

Originally Posted by rwidman

My advice is, if you can't or won't do it right, don't do it at all. Don't make a proper repair more difficult or impossible.

Use paint made for the purpose. Marine topside (or whatever) paint.

Agree with this completely. If you don't you may end up with something you don't like and almost can't fix.

[JPA Cate]

Hi, Mikado, a few comments, here....

Originally Posted by Mikado

Hello CF,

I have been going round and round on painting my topsides. I initially purchased Awl Grip but couldn't find anyone comfortable with applying it here in central Florida. I then purchased single part Total Boat polyurethane after reading some great reviews. Assuming you mean your decks, here, the reluctance may have been due to the high humidity at your location.

A friend of mine insists that I should be creative and consider the urethane spray on bed liner material as an alternative.

Let me give you a little more information as to why I am considering this..........

My long term goal is to start a day charter business in SF Bay. The no skid and durability makes a lot of sense....less worrying about someone slipping and falling as well as concern as to the customers footwear. There may be an aesthetic consideration here, if the result is ugly, forget return customers. Good non-skid will work adequately. As guests on a charter, some friends (and the other customers) put their shoes in a tub which was stored in the lazarette for the duration of the 3 day cruise. Our friends do have a good attitude, but they found the practice charming: at once a leveler, as well as protecting the vessel's decks.

20 year warranty (some brands) Don't know if the warranty will apply, as a non-intended use.

Custom colors available. Sounds good when you say it fast, would you try for a tone match or contrast? Would it enhance the over all appearance of the deck? Would you like it and think it looked good?

You can thin out the material and apply by spray, brush or roller to achieve a smoother finish.

1/2 of my decks are teak, so only 1/2 would get painted, and half of that is non skid.

So finally my question to you...........has anyone ever considered or actually tried this material -vs- topside paint? I would love to hear any feedback positive and negative. We have tried other non skid intended for public showers and swim pool walkways, and found it to be good non-skid, pretty aggressive--I sanded the swim platform so's I could sit on it to put on my fins. I think truck bed liner would be slippery, you want to pull things in and out of the bed of the truck, not good anti-skid at all.

Thanks!!

Jeff

Good luck with it.

Ann