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Old 07-02-2017, 15:14   #31
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Re: Urethane Bed Liner As An Alternative To Topside Paint?

Kiwi Grip for nonskid. Works for us.
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Done all three of the boats I've owned with Kiwigrip. Great product in ALL ways...
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Really? Sailing is ALL about nomenclature?

Granted, it's good and proper to use the correct terms. But it is also possible to be a great sailor without specifically using those terms ALL the time in EVERY situation.
Never said anything about "EVERY" situation. Merely pointed out the simple fact that sailing has its own language, if you will. By not speaking that language you are showing a lack of knowledge. Regardless of how good of a sailor you are, or think you are, who's going to listen to you if you suggest "pulling that rope, or "turning right?" When I was 12, and went sailing on a Sunfish for the first time, I didn't know anything about sailing. All I did was lean it over as far as I can, and if it turns over, I know I'll get wet. When I was 16, and bought my first sailboat, I took a sailing class, so I knew what a beat was, and a tack, and jib sheets, and...nomenclature. Not making a turn, or a rope on the corner of that thing that must be a sheet cause it looks like one. Again, nomenclature.
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What's the best source for Kiwi Grip? Does it fill cracks or do they have to be repaired first? I've got some cracks around my non skid & I'm not sure if I should grind everything off or just go over it.
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I bought mine at Fisheries in Seattle. I would think any descent chandlery would have it or be able to get it. Maybe a Worst Marine nearby. As far as the cracks, it's pretty thick. Kinda like yogurt. I would guess it would fill small cracks as you roll it with their 'magic' roller.
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Never said anything about "EVERY" situation. Merely pointed out the simple fact that sailing has its own language, if you will. By not speaking that language you are showing a lack of knowledge. Regardless of how good of a sailor you are, or think you are, who's going to listen to you if you suggest "pulling that rope, or "turning right?" When I was 12, and went sailing on a Sunfish for the first time, I didn't know anything about sailing. All I did was lean it over as far as I can, and if it turns over, I know I'll get wet. When I was 16, and bought my first sailboat, I took a sailing class, so I knew what a beat was, and a tack, and jib sheets, and...nomenclature. Not making a turn, or a rope on the corner of that thing that must be a sheet cause it looks like one. Again, nomenclature.
I think learning & using nautical nomenclature is one of the great things about boating and is an important tradition that's gone on for centuries. The boats may have changed but the principles are the same today as they were a thousand years ago.
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I read this thread because, from the title, I thought someone was planning to turn their boat into the marine equivalent of a dogem car.


Terminology does matter. :^)
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I read this thread because, from the title, I thought someone was planning to turn their boat into the marine equivalent of a dogem car.


Terminology does matter. :^)

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Sarasota LineX on the west coast of Florida specializes in marine applications of LineX bedliner material.
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Done all three of the boats I've owned with Kiwigrip. Great product in ALL ways...
To each their own.

I have done pretty much every kind of non-skid deck finish possible.

1. For overcoat deck repair. In order of preference, "A" being highest.

A) Uniform pattern gelcoat.

When repairing relatively small areas, making or purchasing a positive mould.

Pro: Near invisible colour and texture matched repair. Inexpensive materials. Most durable. Cleans easiest.

Con: Requires some skill, labour intensive.

B) Random texture gelcoat.

When repairing with same non-skid, using gelcoat and cabosil.

Pro: Inexpensive materials, durable, matching original with texture and colour.

Con: Requires skill for a near invisible match. Very aggressive, (needs to be dulled by sanding). Holds dirt somewhat.

C) Awlgrip with Griptex (or nearest equal)

When overcoating large areas.

Pro: Medium Durability. Moderate easy cleaning.

Con: Expensive materials.

D) Brightside with Griptex (or nearest equal)

As above.

Pro: Less expensive paint.

Con: Less durable paint. More coats required to cover.

E) KiwiGrip (or nearest equal)

Pro: Hides imperfections. Easy to apply.

Con: Slippery when wet unless very aggressive texture and then looks dirty and moldy forever. Tricky to match aggressive texture and keep consistent over large areas. Looks cheap.

F) Truck Bed Liner (or nearest equal)

Pro: Great solution for commercial vessels where appearance is irrelevant.

Con: Looks like crap.

2. Overlay Deck Repair. ("A" being highest.)

A) Teak.

When repairing with same.

Pro: Beautiful.

Con: Teak deck issues.

B) NuTeak (or equal).

When repairing teak decks or when teak look is desired.

Pro: Traditional looking (sorta), cool underfoot. Covers imperfections. Little to no maintenance.

Con: Very expensive. Some skill required.

C) Treadmaster (or nearest equal)

Pro: Hides imperfections.

Con: Possible adhesive failure. Expensive. Can't go over sharp corners. Chemical compatibility.
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.......... Merely pointed out the simple fact that sailing has its own language, if you will. By not speaking that language you are showing a lack of knowledge. ...........
Following that logic, a person with a "lack of knowledge" shouldn't post on the forum, even to gain knowledge. The only people who should be allowed on the forum are those who already know all the answers. Of course it wouldn't be much of a forum at that point.

Maybe a better plan would be to politely explain the correct words that (in your opinion) should be used. Try to remember though, in some parts of the world, the terms might be different than what you are accustomed to.
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Following that logic, a person with a "lack of knowledge" shouldn't post on the forum, even to gain knowledge. The only people who should be allowed on the forum are those who already know all the answers. Of course it wouldn't be much of a forum at that point.

Maybe a better plan would be to politely explain the correct words that (in your opinion) should be used. Try to remember though, in some parts of the world, the terms might be different than what you are accustomed to.
That's an absurd conclusion. People that exhibit a lack of knowledge, which is all of us at one time or another, should be corrected by people that have that knowledge. That is the point of this forum. When someone corrects you that IS gaining knowledge. People correcting a mistake should not be attacked for doing so unless they are overtly rude which was simply not the case here.
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That's an absurd conclusion. People that exhibit a lack of knowledge, which is all of us at one time or another, should be corrected by people that have that knowledge. That is the point of this forum. When someone corrects you that IS gaining knowledge. People correcting a mistake should not be attacked for doing so unless they are overtly rude which was simply not the case here.

Good grief! No one was "attacked" for correcting the OP. Quit flogging a dead horse.
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To each their own.



I have done pretty much every kind of non-skid deck finish possible.



1. For overcoat deck repair. In order of preference, "A" being highest.



A) Uniform pattern gelcoat.



When repairing relatively small areas, making or purchasing a positive mould.



Pro: Near invisible colour and texture matched repair. Inexpensive materials. Most durable. Cleans easiest.



Con: Requires some skill, labour intensive.



B) Random texture gelcoat.



When repairing with same non-skid, using gelcoat and cabosil.



Pro: Inexpensive materials, durable, matching original with texture and colour.



Con: Requires skill for a near invisible match. Very aggressive, (needs to be dulled by sanding). Holds dirt somewhat.



C) Awlgrip with Griptex (or nearest equal)



When overcoating large areas.



Pro: Medium Durability. Moderate easy cleaning.



Con: Expensive materials.



D) Brightside with Griptex (or nearest equal)



As above.



Pro: Less expensive paint.



Con: Less durable paint. More coats required to cover.



E) KiwiGrip (or nearest equal)



Pro: Hides imperfections. Easy to apply.



Con: Slippery when wet unless very aggressive texture and then looks dirty and moldy forever. Tricky to match aggressive texture and keep consistent over large areas. Looks cheap.



F) Truck Bed Liner (or nearest equal)



Pro: Great solution for commercial vessels where appearance is irrelevant.



Con: Looks like crap.



2. Overlay Deck Repair. ("A" being highest.)



A) Teak.



When repairing with same.



Pro: Beautiful.



Con: Teak deck issues.



B) NuTeak (or equal).



When repairing teak decks or when teak look is desired.



Pro: Traditional looking (sorta), cool underfoot. Covers imperfections. Little to no maintenance.



Con: Very expensive. Some skill required.



C) Treadmaster (or nearest equal)



Pro: Hides imperfections.



Con: Possible adhesive failure. Expensive. Can't go over sharp corners. Chemical compatibility.

All good information! My personal experience with KiwiGrip does not agree with yours, but I definitely have seen applications of the product that probably do. The trick is to work quickly in small areas, applying two thin-ish coats rather than one thick one.

Resist the urge to try to correct any imperfections once the product has started to set up. You can always go back and fix them by applying a very thin coat once it is dry.
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