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Old 29-07-2017, 23:25   #1
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On the hard for a long time

Looking at a boat to purchase that has been on the hard for a long time. Are then any issues i should check that could cause problems once the boat is back in the water. Grateful for any advise
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Re: On the hard for a long time

Go on, how long?

You could spend a month going through stuff to see if it work properly. Thing like sea cocks seized, engine needing a good service, antifoul paint needing replacing.

Suggest you buy one of Nigel Calders books on boat maintenance.

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Old 30-07-2017, 00:54   #3
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Go on, how long?

You could spend a month going through stuff to see if it work properly. Thing like sea cocks seized, engine needing a good service, antifoul paint needing replacing.

Suggest you buy one of Nigel Calders books on boat maintenance.

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Not sure will know next week when i inspect. But i get your drift and its kind of what i had in mind. i'll check the book

i have got the experience to check most of the obvious things
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Old 30-07-2017, 01:09   #4
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Re: On the hard for a long time

Expect anything that pumps water to need immediate replacement, even if it appears to be working... it won't be for long. Seals and diaphrams tend to dry out.

How was the engine serviced prior to the lay up? Could be a big issue. Winterized? Raw water Impellers will most likely fail upon start up.

Window seals.

Refrigeration and air conditioning systems will probably be in need of service and repairs.

Anything with grease will be dried out.
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Old 30-07-2017, 03:23   #5
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Re: On the hard for a long time

Mine was on the hard for 5 years pretty much unattended.

The engine was about shot before the boat was put on the hard and only lasted about a month after the boat went back into the water.

It was a 1974 Bristol 27 with original engine.

Most everything else, except the manual bilge pump, was okay and has been for the last 6 years.

I have replaced the automatic bilge pump though and completed two bottom jobs and also completely sanded and painted the topside hull.

Pictures are as the boat was found after being on the hard from 2006 - 2011. And one from 2015.
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Re: On the hard for a long time

Boats really are made to be on the hard for extended periods. As explained already seals, etc. Don't be surprised to see some joinery problems below, some of which should resolve their problems when put back in the water. (Doors don't seem to close right, etc)
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Old 30-07-2017, 09:27   #7
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Depends on what went on. Have a boat on the hard. Start engine and bring up to heat every couple of weeks. Run all systems including head and plumbing. Run fridge. Makes a difference.
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Depends on what went on. Have a boat on the hard. Start engine and bring up to heat every couple of weeks. Run all systems including head and plumbing. Run fridge. Makes a difference.
In Canada, and I suspect in Washington, boats are customarily on the hard for 8 or 9 months EVERY year with no ill effects.

Fear not unless the boat was not prepared properly on hallout.
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In Canada, and I suspect in Washington, boats are customarily on the hard for 8 or 9 months EVERY year with no ill effects.

Fear not unless the boat was not prepared properly on hallout.
On the west coast of Canada and in Washington we don't have to haul except to paint. Sail all year round. Eastern Canada is a different story.
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On the west coast of Canada and in Washington we don't have to haul except to paint. Sail all year round. Eastern Canada is a different story.
Hey....It's the land of Ice and Snow.
Why do you think we all head to the Caribbean in winter?
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Hey....It's the land of Ice and Snow.
Not here.
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Old 31-07-2017, 21:36   #12
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In Canada, and I suspect in Washington, boats are customarily on the hard for 8 or 9 months EVERY year with no ill effects.

Fear not unless the boat was not prepared properly on hallout.
You must live in the eastern part of Canada and not familiar with the geography of the western part of this continent. In B.C. we don't take our boats out of the water in winter, we go sailing! How about a cruise to Vancouver Island for Christmas? and when you say Washington, one presumes you mean Washington DC and not Washington State because WA state is attached to the south side of B.C. and some of them do like us in BC 'cept they mostly cruise to the San Juan's for a Christmas cruise.
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Re: On the hard for a long time

What type of boat make and model would help. Give it a going over and if it lights your fire make an offer pending a survey acceptable to you.
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What type of boat make and model would help. Give it a going over and if it lights your fire make an offer pending a survey acceptable to you.
Bavaria 50. currently in Thailand where i am now. think its been on the hard for some time as owner is not local. I was actually after a Buizen 48 but they are very expensive. The Bavaria 44 is also on the list
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Bavaria 50. currently in Thailand where i am now. think its been on the hard for some time as owner is not local. I was actually after a Buizen 48 but they are very expensive. The Bavaria 44 is also on the list
A big boat. Lots to inspect and maintain. Also lots of potential problems with the transaction (nationals of two different countries, and the transaction in a third?) unless you pretty much take her, "as is," but subject to a pre-sale survey and both out and in the water, plus a sea trial. You can probably drive a hard bargain if the basic systems are OK and you want her. If they are not, run away. I do not know about the rep of the Bavaria line so nothing to add there.
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