New Catana 41--Opinions?

[capezio11]

Catana just updated their site recently with pictures of the new 41 here:

CATANA 41

I attached a couple shots, but there are more available on the page above.

Here are the specs:

DesignChristophe Barreau
Interior DesignLinea Concept
L.O.A.41’3’’
L.W.L.40’7’’
Beam max.22’6’’
Light Displacement (approx.)22,700 lbs
Draft (Boards up)3’3’’Draft (Boards down)6’10’’
Main Sail774 sqft
Genoa on bowsprit441 sqft
Gennaker on bowsprit (option) 753 sqft
Self-tacking Solent-Jib (option) 258 sqft
Inboard Engine power 2 x 40 hp
Fresh water capacity 105 USGal
Fuel capacity 105 USGal
Refrigerator capacity 5,6 ft³
Freezer capacity3,9 ft³

I've been waiting to see how this turned out, so what do you all think?

[imagine2frolic]

A nice looking boat, but I sure wouldn't want those big windows on the side of my hulls. I am sure since they are so big they don't open for ventilation? Ventilation can be everything, and a way to avoid a/c.....i2f

[Nordic cat]

I think it looks a bit "chunky", those high hulls and then the coachroof, but designing a good looking boat with all the percieved customer requirements for space, headroom etc, as well as good bridgedeck clearance is not easy. But should be possible in this size.

I like the inside colour scheme, but still don't understand why so many people design the sofa facing aft. Chris White is one of the few who does it properly IMO.

I must say, I prefer the looks of the older Catanas, they looked "the business", fast cruising cats primarily sold to private owners, whereas the new ones seem more as if they target the charter market. Unless they can get the numbers up, the prices will be difficult to get down.

Let's hope the owners manage to turn things around and keep them going.

Alan

[freetime]

I like the design, and the interiordesign is fun. I would like to see it in reality..

What do you think the price for a sailaway Catana 41 is?

[imagine2frolic]

You don't have to face aft, but you can if you like, or even to strbrd.

I gives the feeling of openess would be my guess. Especially with the big doors to the cockpit while they are open.

[capezio11]

I think the price for the Catana 50 is 980,000 Euros, so $1.3M roughly. I would expect the new 46 to be around $900K and maybe the 41 would be $700K??? All big guesses on my part, but very very expensive will be an adequate description nonetheless.

They have an inventory list and it looks like just about everything is included except the bowsprit. I didn't see on the inventory that carbon mast/boom was an option.

[DWT]

How do you access the engine rooms? The older 40 and 44 were from the inside thru the head area. I have looked at a few older Catana's to buy and I found this to be a deal breaker.

[Stella Polaris]

I really don't like the look of the salon. Though I agree a forward facing salon would be better, the couch looks tiny and it looks like it has a poor utilization of the available space.

[freetime]

I saw that the bigger catanas have a more standard interior. I think this design should fit better in the bigger ones and after looking at the pics again. A standard interior should fit this better.

[capezio11]

I agree that the couch looks small, but it also looks like it isn't very comfortable in that you can't sit in the corner with your legs stretched out length-wise because of the angled corner. I wish it would wrap around the ends of the table, that way you could sit and see forward. But, I imagine for the money you could ask for some modification to the couch design.

The aft cabins look small, really small. The narrow hulls, that are part of the Catana design philosophy, really squeezes things when you get down to this size boat. compared to something like a Lagoon 42, it is really a tight fit in there.

[capezio11]

I've been looking at cats for a while now and pretty much settled on a Catana, but I've been waiting for these two new boats, the 41 and 46 to hit the water and see if I should go for one of those or a second-hand 43.

Here's the link to the 43 page: CATANA 43

And here are the specs:

DesignChristophe BARREAU
L.O.A. 47’6’’L.W.L.42’4’’
Beam max. 24’
Light Displacement (approx.) 22,300 lbs
Draft (Boards up) 3’9’’
Draft (Boards down) 8’2’’
Main Sail 797 sqft
Genoa on bowsprit 495 sqft
Gennaker on bowsprit (option) 732 sqft
Inboard Engine power 2 x 40 hp
Fresh water capacity 211 USGal
Fuel capacity 190 USGal
Refrigerator capacity 5,65 ft³
Freezer capacity 3,9 ft³

What would you choose, new boat (my preference) or used?

[Double-Wide]

My first question is, where are the opening ports? The main cabin looks to have all fixed ports. Most boats spend much more time at the dock or at anchor than crossing oceans. I think flow thru ventilation is imperative.

Also, the outboard helm station seems to be so far aft that the set is actually behind the transom. Will this allow visibility to leeward?

Cameron

[freetime]

Originally Posted by Double-Wide

My first question is, where are the opening ports? The main cabin looks to have all fixed ports. Most boats spend much more time at the dock or at anchor than crossing oceans. I think flow thru ventilation is imperative.

Also, the outboard helm station seems to be so far aft that the set is actually behind the transom. Will this allow visibility to leeward?

Cameron

Thats true...


p.s cameron, please start a thread and tell us about your seawind d.s