very old wooden sailboat....photo!

[Sam Plan B]

I would have taken it for a Friendship Sloop, possibly home built to Howard Chapelle drawings in American Small Sailing Craft. It looks too small for a schooner though there are an extra pair of chain plates aft. I agree with Tad. It may be too far gone to bother with restoration unless the boat has some special historic significance. Did Joshua Slocum once own it? If not, move on. There are lots of older GRP boats needing love.

[otherthan]

Originally Posted by Sam Plan B

I would have taken it for a Friendship Sloop, possibly home built to Howard Chapelle drawings in American Small Sailing Craft. It looks too small for a schooner though there are an extra pair of chain plates aft. I agree with Tad. It may be too far gone to bother with restoration unless the boat has some special historic significance. Did Joshua Slocum once own it? If not, move on. There are lots of older GRP boats needing love.

it looks like a friendship sloop!!!but it has 2 masts??
for the time being I only want to visite the boat...from the photo it looks like she was well cared for...if shes in good enough shape for me to restore I may take her back with me...why? because I am the kind of man that likes to learn by doing...to me its not just the boat, its the entire experience of restoration and interaction...knowing nothing about wooden boats is no excuse...the outcome of passion is always good.

[ncarter]

Steve, There`s no harm in just looking...schooners rule!

[otherthan]

Originally Posted by ncarter

Steve, There`s no harm in just looking...schooners rule!

just looking at the photo...I cauld see her with all her blue sails, fresh paint and varnish...WOW

cheers

[Seahunter]

Originally Posted by jobi

can anyone tell me what type of sailboat this is?

I want to go and see it this weekend...I find it facinating

It's a Langoustier de Camaret; otherwise known as a French Crabber, used on the east coast as lobster boats and private yachts. They're still being built today.

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[savoir]

Nice work Holmes.

This is only a model but you get a great idea of how the boat should look when restored.

http://www.ships-models.com/vmchk/7-...e-camaret.html

[scook1]

Looks pretty interesting. The high freeboard on the bow make it look like a tug.
Spencer

[Seahunter]

If she's in Quebec, that would would certainly answer some of her history. My friend had one that his father built from PEI that they lobstered with, then converted her to a yawl and a recreational vessel. You could cross the Atlantic with her and handled nor'easter waves 10+ like a Cadillac. If she has a Perkins, my guess is that she was built in the 60's, maybe Nova Scotia, New Brunswick or PEI. Good LUck.

[otherthan]

Originally Posted by Seahunter

It's a Langoustier de Camaret; otherwise known as a French Crabber, used on the east coast as lobster boats and private yachts. They're still being built today.

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what an awsome pieace of history....thanks

[bob perry]

Seahunter:
If you are saying the old wooden boat in the original post is the same boat as the ones in your pics I think you are quite wrong. The boat in the original post has a clipper bow and a schooner rig. Not very French.
But those are very handsome craft.

I think the closest we have come to identifying this boat is ther suggestion it is a Murray Petersone design.

[savoir]

Well I dunno. I reckon the triangular bit on the bow is more of a support for the new sprit than a clipper bow. I say new sprit because there is no way a traditional boat like that would have started out with a S/S pulpit as shown in the pic.

Only one thing for it. Head over there on the weekend and grab a pic or three of a mizzen collar or step - if there is one.

Anyway here is a pic of a Peterson schooner to keep everyone amused until Monday. It is 28 ft which is roughly what the one in this thread seems to be.

[bob perry]

A good shot of the transom shape would be a big help.

[otherthan]

Originally Posted by bob perry

A good shot of the transom shape would be a big help.

Robert I will take many photos because its such an interesting boat...however the owner says its been on the dry unprotected to the elements for several years...the deck is rutten and shes full of rain water...I dough the structure is in good shape?...I dont mind redouing the deck and changing a few planks if structure is good.

I am leaving one week for my girlfriends operation, then will go and see the boat.
rgds

[VirtualVagabond]

Originally Posted by jobi

wow what are you psychic?? thats exactly what I was thinking ( an old Murray Peterson schooner) fact is I have a friend in need of this engin...the boat would make a most interesting project for my kids and me...dont you think she would make an exelent st laurence gulf sailor???

cheers

You've got an interesting project..... what are you thinking?

[psk125]

Originally Posted by jobi

what an awsome pieace of history....thanks

Don't jump too fast into that langoustier. The boat in question has a clipper, not plumb bow. See how it flares out? The bowsprit is a plank, not a pole, the way it is on the Langoustiers. The Langoustier's topsides are almost straight up & down. The sheer on the original boat curves up at the stern, rather than the drooping way the langoustier's finds the transom, and the langoustier has a flat transom, compared to the curved transom of the boat you're planning to go see. Compare the sizes of the vessels. The Langoustiers look to be about 50 to 60 feet on deck. IMHO Tad (above) is closer to the money. Google the designer he mentions and see if this boat doesn't turn up in there somewhere.