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Old 23-10-2022, 13:40   #16
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Re: Hallberg-Rassy 31 vs Nor’Sea 27

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One thing I see that I don't like and which could lead to tears in high latitudes is the rudder - described by BP as ' a spade type that is partially balanced on a vertical stock.'
The rudder post ( within the rudder ) only seems to extend as far as the foot of that demi-skeg.

No problem I am sure in the middle latitudes.
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Interesting - if you look here https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/199...sy-31-8383761/ at both the first photo and then scroll twice to the left the rudder on that '95 one looks quite different.

I blame it on a trick of the light.
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Re: Hallberg-Rassy 31 vs Nor’Sea 27

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Interesting - if you look here https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/199...sy-31-8383761/ at both the first photo and then scroll twice to the left the rudder on that '95 one looks quite different.

I blame it on a trick of the light.
Apparently these boats could have been ordered in different configurations. Example the one on yacht world has a wheel but the drawing from sailboat data shows a tiller. However they both show similar rudders, with a short skeg, three bearings, and a full weldment which extends to the end of the rudder. Very strong.

But Whoa! I hope that one is not the one OP's looking at. It has a club footed self tacking jib and an in-the-mast roller furling mainsail. Run, don't walk.
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Old 26-10-2022, 12:25   #19
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Re: Hallberg-Rassy 31 vs Nor’Sea 27

This doesn't show the internal structure of the rudder, but it's a good look at how they've done the lower bearing on the 34, just for context. All the specs I've read state that HR use a solid SS rod for the rudder post.

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Apparently these boats could have been ordered in different configurations. Example the one on yacht world has a wheel but the drawing from sailboat data shows a tiller. However they both show similar rudders, with a short skeg, three bearings, and a full weldment which extends to the end of the rudder. Very strong.

But Whoa! I hope that one is not the one OP's looking at. It has a club footed self tacking jib and an in-the-mast roller furling mainsail. Run, don't walk.
Yes, even the 31 was offered with optional wheel steering, as well as the 34+.

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Old 30-10-2022, 07:01   #21
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I’ve got a dilemma choosing between a 1994 31 foot Hallberg-Rassy and a 1991 Nor’Sea 27. Cost is not a factor. My concerns are blue water capability, sailing performance, and live ability. Any opinions and/or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Unless you must have a trailerable boat, pick the HR.
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