Flush Deck Boats Illustrated Guide

[Scout 30]

Originally Posted by Steadman Uhlich

Storm King

This boat was home designed and built by Ron Beltz in Hobart Tasmania, in 1938. Planking came from a single log of Huon pine!

Listed on the National Register of Historic Vessels Storm King | Explore | Australian Register of Historic Vessels | Australian National Maritime Museum

EXCERPT:
"STORM KING is a raised deck cutter and is in excellent condition. The hull still retains its classic profile and 1930s appearance. One of the few changes is the removal of the doghouse aft and the addition of a small coach house over the saloon for added headroom. STORM KING won two categories at the 1996 Sydney Wooden Boat Festival: 'Best Presented Yacht' and 'Best in Show'.

The cutter STORM KING is a yacht built in Tasmania in the late 1930s. It was built by Ronald Beltz, and is an amateur designed and built yacht from Tasmania.

The lines for STORM KING came off the Huon pine half model Beltz had carved to design the hull. He built STORM KING in his Lenah Valley back yard, pit-sawing the planks in a vacant area down hill from the house from a single Huon pine log he acquired from the Tasmanian west coast. The planks were passed through his cabinet maker's machinery. The children helped after school, fastening the planks to the framing with copper nails and roves. It is heavily built in 25 mm (1'') thick planks, and although dressed finished, some planks still show adze marks on the inside. The transom is a single plank of Huon pine."

28 ft x 34 ft x 27 ft x 9.5 ft x 4.5 ft, 6 tons)

I LOVE THIS BOAT!!!! Maybe a little biased because we've got a raised deck motor cruiser. Doug Hylan of Maine has designed several raised deck boats & says it's a much stronger & simpler build when the deck beams run straight across instead of to a trunk cabin. Plus you end up with a really roomy living area. Another big plus is the standing headroom runs all the way to the bow which makes it a perfect place to put the head.

[Steadman Uhlich]

Islander 33
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Steady's Notes

The photos of the boat show a nice looking boat, in what appears to be good condition given its age and asking price. As with any boat, a survey is a good idea. Caveat Emptor.

I like what I see in the photos, and was a little surprised by what appears to be a roomy interior with nice looking mahogany wood furniture.. There are more photos showing the interior and cockpit and details on the linked page. But, the broker has uploaded poor quality photos, unfortunately.
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Year = 1967

Asking Price = $9,800

Location = Afton MN (Great Lakes), USA
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Specifications for this model of boat.
From Sailboatdata

Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop
LOA: 32.58' / 9.93m LWL: 24.00' / 7.32m
Beam: 10.16' / 3.10m Listed SA: 448 ft2 / 41.62 m2
Draft (max.) 4.50' / 1.37m Draft (min.)
Displacement: 10000 lbs./ 4536 kgs. Ballast: 3300 lbs. / 1497 kgs.
Sail Area/Disp.1: 15.50 Bal./Disp.: 33.00% Disp./Len.: 322.94
Designer: J. H. McGlasson
Builder: Wayfarer Yacht Corp. (USA)
Construction: FG Bal. type: Lead
First Built: 1964 Last Built: 1971 # Built:
AUXILIARY POWER (orig. equip.)
Make: Universal Model: Atomic 4
Type: Gas HP:
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Link to Ad with contact info
1967 Islander 33 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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All photos in this post are from THIS ad for THIS boat.
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My Disclaimers and Requests

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.

[Polux]

The maxi yachts for the very rich that like to sail without a crowd and have a retro taste, according with Philippe Briand. The model is very appropriately called "Egoist" LOL

[406Columbia]

Originally Posted by Steadman Uhlich

Islander 33
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Steady's Notes

The photos of the boat show a nice looking boat, in what appears to be good condition given its age and asking price. As with any boat, a survey is a good idea. Caveat Emptor.

I like what I see in the photos, and was a little surprised by what appears to be a roomy interior with nice looking mahogany wood furniture.. There are more photos showing the interior and cockpit and details on the linked page. But, the broker has uploaded poor quality photos, unfortunately.
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Year = 1967

Asking Price = $9,800

Location = Afton MN (Great Lakes), USA
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Specifications for this model of boat.
From Sailboatdata

Hull Type: Fin Keel Rig Type: Masthead Sloop
LOA: 32.58' / 9.93m LWL: 24.00' / 7.32m
Beam: 10.16' / 3.10m Listed SA: 448 ft2 / 41.62 m2
Draft (max.) 4.50' / 1.37m Draft (min.)
Displacement: 10000 lbs./ 4536 kgs. Ballast: 3300 lbs. / 1497 kgs.
Sail Area/Disp.1: 15.50 Bal./Disp.: 33.00% Disp./Len.: 322.94
Designer: J. H. McGlasson
Builder: Wayfarer Yacht Corp. (USA)
Construction: FG Bal. type: Lead
First Built: 1964 Last Built: 1971 # Built:
AUXILIARY POWER (orig. equip.)
Make: Universal Model: Atomic 4
Type: Gas HP:
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Link to Ad with contact info
1967 Islander 33 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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All photos in this post are from THIS ad for THIS boat.
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My Disclaimers and Requests

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.

Ive been watching the old girl for several months now, really love the islander flush decks. I wish the same interior layout of the I30 was carried over to the I33. If that was the case id have likely already put in an offer on that I33 months ago.

[Steadman Uhlich]

Norman Dallimore Traditional Bermudan Ketch
Built 1947

More information (details and more photos) here on CF:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2607848

[Steadman Uhlich]

Freedom 44' Cat Ketch

FLUSH DECK

Year = 1983
LOA = 44'
Beam = 13'
Draft = 4'6"
Location = Florida (Port Charlotte)

Asking Price = $68,800

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Steadman's Notes

This particular design is one of my favorites. Very roomy inside. Nice flush deck. Nice cockpit. Easy rig. I almost bought one years ago, and they still catch my eye.

Unfortunately this seller has only one photo of the boat on the ad.

But, I do like to see this model of boat (and any boat) sailing under full sail.

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Link to Ad

https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/73293

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My Disclaimers and Requests

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area.
IF you have a sister boat, I encourage you to post some comments about it in this thread.
IF you own a similar or sister boat, I would enjoy sailing on it with you, because I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.

[Steadman Uhlich]

Carter 39'

Location = SOCAL. Los Angeles harbor

Asking Price = $12,900
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Steadman's Notes:

1. Today I came across this boat and thought it may appeal to someone on CF.
Reason? Low price and size.

2. This is an older (1973) "Racer Cruiser" that looks like it has a typical IOR hull shape.

3. The interior is surprisingly nice.

4. It has dual wheels in the cockpit, and large winches.

5. While this boat appears to not have any topside deadlights, and so may have a relatively dark interior, with less ventilation, it is something that other Flush Deck boat owners deal with or live with.
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Specifications:

LOA: 39 ft
LWL: 30 ft
Length Overall: 39 ft
Length of Deck: 39 ft
Beam: 12.58 ft
Min Draft: 6.58 ft
Ballast Weight: 7350 lbs
Displacement: 18750 lbs

Engine Brand: Perkins
Engine Model: 4108
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Power: 50 HP
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Link to Boat:

https://www.seacoastyachts.com/yacht...oat_id=6965195

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/197...tent=PBS-1View

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Disclaimer:

I have NO connection to this boat, the broker, or the owner. I am simply sharing a boat I saw that I think others may like or could consider and that fits within the parameters of this thread. As with any boat, you should conduct a survey and "caveat emptor." That said, this boat may fit someone's needs or budget and could allow them to go sailing or cruising. If someone reading this does buy the boat, I hope they will post a notice here to let us know.

[sardinebreath]

Originally Posted by Steadman Uhlich

CAL 25

"As every sailor will tell you, having a well sealed deck is important."

I raced double handed on a CAL 25 in San Francisco Bay.

The Flush Deck on a small boat like this can provide more headroom in the small boat, making it more comfortable below.

I'm confused by this claim. A flush deck, versus a raised coach roof, can only decrease headroom and volume below. There are advantages to a flush deck, but I can't think of any that relate to the interior. What am I missing?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by sardinebreath

I'm confused by this claim. A flush deck, versus a raised coach roof, can only decrease headroom and volume below. There are advantages to a flush deck, but I can't think of any that relate to the interior. What am I missing?

Incorrect a flush deck is a bit higher than a standard coach roof cabin and it extends al the way to the sheer . A raised coach as you are ( I assume) talking about is a flush deck as in same level from sheer to sheer. Which increases headroom by about 4 to 6 inches throughout the entire cabin hull side to hull side no cut for side decks as there is no side deck . In other words you are trying to split hairs .

[sardinebreath]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Incorrect a flush deck is a bit higher than a standard coach roof cabin and it extends al the way to the sheer . A raised coach as you are ( I assume) talking about is a flush deck as in same level from sheer to sheer. Which increases headroom by about 4 to 6 inches throughout the entire cabin hull side to hull side no cut for side decks as there is no side deck . In other words you are trying to split hairs .

If I understand what you are saying, that is not what I was talking about. I'm referring to cabin sides that extend above the level of the side decks and generally have some form of portlights. The top of the cabin in that case is what I am calling a raised coach roof but perhaps my terminology is off. In any case, I think it's clear that a cabin that juts up above the level of the side decks, offers greater headroom and interior volume than a flush deck that doesn't rise significantly above the level of the side decks. That should be undebatable, right?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by sardinebreath

If I understand what you are saying, that is not what I was talking about. I'm referring to cabin sides that extend above the level of the side decks and generally have some form of portlights. The top of the cabin in that case is what I am calling a raised coach roof but perhaps my terminology is off. In any case, I think it's clear that a cabin that juts up above the level of the side decks, offers greater headroom and interior volume than a flush deck that doesn't rise significantly above the level of the side decks. That should be undebatable, right?

Actually no that is not quite correct for smaller raised flush deck boats like mine .

This drawing should help explain.

[Don C L]

Depends on the boat as Newhaul says. My old boat, the Columbia 24 came in a flush deck version that was as you say, lacking in headroom. But I believe Newhaul's headroom in his Columbia 29 Defender, may be the same as my Columbia 29 MK1.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Depends on the boat as Newhaul says. My old boat, the Columbia 24 came in a flush deck version that was as you say, lacking in headroom. But I believe Newhaul's headroom in his Columbia 29 Defender, may be the same as my Columbia 29 MK1.

My 24 bahama had 5ft 4in headroom I had to stoop some my defender 29 has 6ft 4 in headroom so I clear easily .

The bahama 24 actually measured out to have enough tonnage to qualify to be documented . Which is a rarity even in most 29 or 30 ft sailboats .

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Actually no that is not quite correct for smaller raised flush deck boats like mine .

This drawing should help explain.

And as this shows the obvious added volume in a cross section there is similar, or greater, added volume forward where, in effect, the cabin top continues all the way to the bow.

In some cases the deck level, which is at the cabin top level, even extends aft to the transom, a true flush deck, and for sure a massive increase in interior volume.

On this boat the whole deck is raised 8", bow to stern, and there is no trunk cabin.