There is no Planet B

[StuM]

Originally Posted by SailOar

The five-year trend is that more Americans are worried about Global Warming, and the trend is most pronounced among conservative Republicans.

https://www.climatechangecommunicati...american-mind/

(I would post the graph shown in the above link, but currently lack the technology to do so.)

Not a single question in that alarmist survey about whether there are any potential benefits to global warming.



Also many negative pre-conceptions embedded in the survey questions.

[conachair]

Originally Posted by newhaul

The agw theory is wrong

There's a strong temptation to listen to scientists and read the science rather than random posts on a web forum... Like NASA, Royal society, so many sources out there..

https://royalsociety.org/topics-poli...limate-change/

https://youtu.be/kHp0ph37QRk

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by conachair

There's a strong temptation to listen to scientists and read the science rather than random posts on a web forum... Like NASA, Royal society, so many sources out there..

https://royalsociety.org/topics-poli...limate-change/

https://youtu.be/kHp0ph37QRk

NASA admitting we are heading into a deep solar minimum.
As I have been stating for 3 years.

Royal society . They are real hacks for the MMGWC led by the U.N. Ipcc cabal .funded by the globalist agenda.

In 2 years their narrative implodes. And the planet cools.

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by conachair

There's a strong temptation to listen to scientists and read the science rather than random posts on a web forum... Like NASA, Royal society, so many sources out there..

https://royalsociety.org/topics-poli...limate-change/

https://youtu.be/kHp0ph37QRk

Funny, thank you for posting.

What I heart was, we are scientist and funded by taxes, we dont know what exactly causes the damage, we do not give advice, how to fix it, we have controversy discussion how fast climate changes, but we are all sure, humans activity causes it, otherwise we would lose our funding or our job.

[conachair]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

Funny, thank you for posting.

What I heart was, we are scientist and funded by taxes, we dont know what exactly causes the damage, we do not give advice, how to fix it, we have controversy discussion how fast climate changes, but we are all sure, humans activity causes it, otherwise we would lose our funding or our job.

If you can come up with some science showing humans are in no way involved with increasing the heat content of the planet and find an alternative mechanism you will be rich beyond your wildest dreams, enough to buy a really nice suit when accepting your nobel price and appearing on chat shows every night of tbe week. The cash cow argument doesn't cut it, apart from career suicide for any scientists caught lying huge buckets of money waiting for anyone who can come up with an alternative mechanism to explain the rapidly warming planet. No one can.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by conachair

If you can come up with some science showing humans are in no way involved with increasing the heat content of the planet and find an alternative mechanism you will be rich beyond your wildest dreams, enough to buy a really nice suit when accepting your nobel price and appearing on chat shows every night of tbe week. The cash cow argument doesn't cut it, apart from career suicide for any scientists caught lying huge buckets of money waiting for anyone who can come up with an alternative mechanism to explain the rapidly warming planet. No one can.

what rapid warming ?
You mean the one that is shown using Squed temperature records.

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by conachair

If you can come up with some science showing humans are in no way involved with increasing the heat content of the planet and find an alternative mechanism you will be rich beyond your wildest dreams, enough to buy a really nice suit when accepting your nobel price and appearing on chat shows every night of tbe week. The cash cow argument doesn't cut it, apart from career suicide for any scientists caught lying huge buckets of money waiting for anyone who can come up with an alternative mechanism to explain the rapidly warming planet. No one can.

Thats an easy one, where can I claim the money?

Look at the dinosaurs era, there were no humans around, but warming climates and ice ages.

[newhaul]

Not to burst any bubbles but arctic sea ice is stable.and growing again just like in the early 1940's
Data Show Polar Sea Ice Stable 12 Years, Cause Global Warming Alarmists To Melt Down

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Not to burst any bubbles but arctic sea ice is stable.and growing again just like in the early 1940's
Data Show Polar Sea Ice Stable 12 Years, Cause Global Warming Alarmists To Melt Down

No matter what, it is a desaster per definition and it is human made, mate! Guilty until proven inocent.

[conachair]

Originally Posted by newhaul

what rapid warming ?
You mean the one that is shown using Squed temperature records.

No. The one that is obvious in a vast amount of data. Ocean heat content, changing migration times, plants growing at higher latitudes & altitudes, etc etc not in least scientifically contentious. Say it's not happening and you're rubbing shoulders with homeopathy and astrology. It is, and on geographical time scales near instant. With only one smoking gun...

[SailOar]

Climate change may affect ecological interactions among species

.....Equilibria between predators and plant-feeding prey may be disrupted by future climate change, according to a study published in Nature Climate Change......

The study concluded that climate change can redistribute the strength of ecological interactions between predator and prey species. The results show that higher temperatures and a more stable climate with less seasonal variability lead to more intense predation pressure.

However, the increased climate instability that accompanies ongoing climate change, especially in tropical regions, will lead to an overall decline in predation pressure in the tropics. In contrast, predation pressure will rise in some temperate regions......

For example, many organic farmers in the tropics depend on biological control by natural enemies of crop pests, and projected changes in climate may weaken the effectiveness of predators in controlling these pests.......

[CatNewBee]

climate changes up and down since 4.5 billion years on earth, this is not the question, the question is how big is the influence of human life on it, and how to end it to safe the planet.

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by SailOar

Climate change may affect ecological interactions among species

I dont need science to find out in tropic regions predators become lazy. It is simply nicer to lay in the shadow then to go hunting, there is so many food around too. In polar climate you better catch what you can to survive, not many food around either.

[hpeer]

Originally Posted by SailOar

The five-year trend is that more Americans are worried about Global Warming, and the trend is most pronounced among conservative Republicans.

https://www.climatechangecommunicati...american-mind/

(I would post the graph shown in the above link, but currently lack the technology to do so.)

Yale has been doing a study since 2009 tracking Americans CC belief. Here’s the current status.

Global Warming's Six Americas - Yale Program on Climate Change Communication

In the original 2009 report the stats are first current second:
Alarmed 18% ——- 29%
Concerned 33% ——- 30%
Cautious 19% ——— 17%
Disengaged 12% ———- 5%
Doubtful 11% ———- 9%
Dismissive 7% ———— 9%

Current report graphic below:

[hpeer]

From the above attitude statistics, compiled by scientists, it seems fairly convincing that there is a hard core of the American population, about 25%, who are beyond conviencing. Why this is I don’t know. But since 15% of milenials are I convienced the world is round while 2% are convienced it is flat (Scientific American) it’s fairly clear that the debate on climate change has an extreamly high acceptance rate among those open to persuasion.

There is a segment who can not, and will not ever be convienced. Time to move on.