Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > General Sailing Forum
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 29-09-2016, 08:09   #61
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Annapolis, MD
Boat: Sail any boats from 28 to 60 ft
Posts: 577
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

Just an update: The boat will leave Greenland on route directly to Bristol, UK. They will be accompanied by Northabout, a Irish Yacht. I hope they can sail further south before making a left turn.
rockDAWG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2016, 11:50   #62
Registered User
 
DeepFrz's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Boat: None at this time
Posts: 8,462
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

Any further news on this voyage?

I copied this from Northabout's log.
Quote:
Everyone is tired, ready for a break, and maintaining a genuine smile when they can, its only the captain that is smiling like a terrified chimpanzee as I’m the one who see the weather forecasts!
DeepFrz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2016, 12:13   #63
Moderator
 
Dockhead's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Helsinki (Summer); Cruising the Baltic Sea this year!
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
Posts: 33,873
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeepFrz View Post
Any further news on this voyage?

I copied this from Northabout's log.

Northabout faced some pretty horrendous conditions, even worse than what we were warning the OP about. On top of strong weather, the poor sods have had to face perverse EAST winds.

We have handled this at 50 KT with around 7m seas, (occasionally 8-9m) so our confidence levels are good. I heaved the boat to for a few minutes to test how she behaved, and she was ‘OK’ sitting duck like as the rollers powered through beneath us

http://polarocean.co.uk/8118-2/

And this is a tough metal expedition boat, not a plastic production boat like the OP's.

I hope that the other boat, the one the OP is supposed to be crewing on, has gotten through ok.

Northabout's log makes interesting reading. I loved the part about being three days away, five days ago Don't I know what that's like!
Dockhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2016, 12:20   #64
Registered User
 
DeepFrz's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Boat: None at this time
Posts: 8,462
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

I have read some of the logs. One log mentioned the "Eagles Quest II" but no further mention that I could see. It looks like "Northabout" should make port today or tonight.

Dockhead, regarding your mention of
Quote:
I loved the part about being three days away, five days ago Don't I know what that's like!
there was also a mention of a "200 mile forcefield" off the west coast of Ireland.
DeepFrz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2016, 12:24   #65
Moderator
 
Dockhead's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Helsinki (Summer); Cruising the Baltic Sea this year!
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
Posts: 33,873
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeepFrz View Post
I have read some of the logs. One log mentioned the "Eagles Quest II" but no further mention that I could see. It looks like "Northabout" should make port today or tonight.

Dockhead, regarding your mention of
there was also a mention of a "200 mile forcefield" off the west coast of Ireland.
Yes, I read that, and laughed.

I've been stuck in the middle of the North Sea with a "forcefield" around every place I might want to get to. Tacking in heavy weather struggling to get upwind, like Sysiphus rolling the rock up the hill over and over again . . . . , with sun coming up and going down and coming up again, with no apparent progress.

And they say we do this for fun!

Here's wishing Northabout and that other boat a safe landfall! :beer:
Dockhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-10-2016, 17:40   #66
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Annapolis, MD
Boat: Sail any boats from 28 to 60 ft
Posts: 577
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

I received SATphone text this morning that EQII was safe and sound. The crews have arrived Westport walking on solid ground now.

Was told that they went thru 4 storms on the way to Ireland from Greenland. The worst one was 47 knot with 5 m wave. The boat suffered lot of damage, but they survived.

The staysail broke, the bimini was blown away, autopilot failed, genset is gone, water intrusion everywhere, and that the bulge pump couldn't keep up. Fortunately just before leaving Hong Kong, they bought a high power sump pump that saved their asses. With over 40+ knot wind from SE, it blew them 100 nm off course. It ended up that they sought refuse in Westport.

Now they just licking their wounds and get some immediately repair and see if they can make it to Cork for major haul out and repair. This leg turned out to be the most gruesome trip. Crossing the NW passage and crossing Baffin Bay were a piece of cake. Crossing Northern Atlantic in the late season is a total different animal all together. I am glad they are safe and the boat is OK. Somehow I just don't understand why they had their bimini up during the storm.....LOL.

Despite all these, they held up well together as a team. I am sure they would not want to do it again any time soon. But it will make a great story to tell.

We are sailors!!! We choose to sail is not because it is easy.
rockDAWG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-10-2016, 18:16   #67
Senior Cruiser
 
boatman61's Avatar

Community Sponsor
Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 30,641
Images: 2
pirate Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

Glad they made it across okay.. don't envy them the trip..
__________________


You can't beat a people up (for 75yrs+) and have them say..
"I Love You.. ". Murray Roman.
Yet the 'useful idiots' of the West still dance to the beat of the apartheid drums.
boatman61 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2016, 00:41   #68
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 20
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockDAWG View Post
I received SATphone text this morning that EQII was safe and sound. The crews have arrived Westport walking on solid ground now.

Was told that they went thru 4 storms on the way to Ireland from Greenland. The worst one was 47 knot with 5 m wave. The boat suffered lot of damage, but they survived.

The staysail broke, the bimini was blown away, autopilot failed, genset is gone, water intrusion everywhere, and that the bulge pump couldn't keep up. Fortunately just before leaving Hong Kong, they bought a high power sump pump that saved their asses. With over 40+ knot wind from SE, it blew them 100 nm off course. It ended up that they sought refuse in Westport.

Now they just licking their wounds and get some immediately repair and see if they can make it to Cork for major haul out and repair. This leg turned out to be the most gruesome trip. Crossing the NW passage and crossing Baffin Bay were a piece of cake. Crossing Northern Atlantic in the late season is a total different animal all together. I am glad they are safe and the boat is OK. Somehow I just don't understand why they had their bimini up during the storm.....LOL.

Despite all these, they held up well together as a team. I am sure they would not want to do it again any time soon. But it will make a great story to tell.

We are sailors!!! We choose to sail is not because it is easy.
47 kts max? Sounds quite reasonable. I would have expected more.
Numawan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2016, 06:46   #69
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,437
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

If I read it correct, 5m waves and 45 knots of wind. That's not quite hell of a weather. Plenty of damage though.

I bet your friends are very modest in their estimates. Or else the boat is delicate.

Very glad to hear they made it all-right! Thanks for the update!

Cheers,
b.
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2016, 07:12   #70
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Annapolis, MD
Boat: Sail any boats from 28 to 60 ft
Posts: 577
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

A lot of damage of the boat was coming from my mouth not his. I may use the wrong words. Don't over reacting, please.
rockDAWG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2016, 12:55   #71
Moderator
 
Dockhead's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Helsinki (Summer); Cruising the Baltic Sea this year!
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
Posts: 33,873
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel View Post
If I read it correct, 5m waves and 45 knots of wind. That's not quite hell of a weather. Plenty of damage though.

I bet your friends are very modest in their estimates. Or else the boat is delicate.

Very glad to hear they made it all-right! Thanks for the update!

Cheers,
b.
I disagree, Barney. It's certainly not nearly as bad as it COULD have been, but mid-40's mean wind speed is Force 9. At those latitudes, with that fetch, blowing for long periods in the middle of the ocean, that is really bad weather. That can produce seas of up to 10 meters. That is especially really bad weather if you're trying to make way other than straight downwind.

I was knocked down (in a tough 54', 25 ton boat!) in the North Sea in weather like that -- going dead downwind.

Remember also that cold air is denser and has more power in it.


RockDawg -- aren't you glad you didn't end up on that boat, starting from 5 degrees (!!) higher than where they ended up starting from? You would have had better than 50/50 chance of being in a Force 10 or even 11 up there, in that season. Now you see why we were giving you, the advice we did! The boat, as I understand (?) was a Dehler or some other boat like that -- not made for that kind of duty! A Force 10 could have been a survival situation up there.


Anyway, all's well that ends well. Making port after something like that is like an airplane landing -- every one of them you can walk away from is a good one
Dockhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2016, 12:56   #72
Moderator
 
Dockhead's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Helsinki (Summer); Cruising the Baltic Sea this year!
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
Posts: 33,873
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numawan View Post
47 kts max? Sounds quite reasonable. I would have expected more.
They were lucky!
Dockhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2016, 13:02   #73
Registered User
 
DeepFrz's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Boat: None at this time
Posts: 8,462
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

Thanks for the update rockDAWG. I'm glad the crew is safe.
DeepFrz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-10-2016, 14:05   #74
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Annapolis, MD
Boat: Sail any boats from 28 to 60 ft
Posts: 577
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

It is apparent that they only stopped in Westport for some quick fix and left for Dingle Bay yesterday. Will stop there a day and head out to Cork.

They will haul out the boat plus some repair in Cork. KD the owner will end the expedition early and fly home. I will fly to Cork to organize the repair and hail out. He will resume the sailing activity next year to take the boat back up Hong Kong.

I am not sure what is his next thing on his bucket list since he has done all of them, I think. May be flying to Mars. LOL.
rockDAWG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-10-2016, 07:01   #75
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,437
Re: Late Season Sailing in Northern Europe

Yes. Indeed.

Just the fact that sea and wind are so cold there will make huge impact on how things develop. And then the countless other factors like wind shifts on passing systems that generate confused seas which is probably worst for any small and mid size pleasure craft.

My comment on conditions being moderate was not meant to take anything from the skills and events. And it was, in retrospective, jumped. We have been living between the tropics for 15 years now and I admit I am beginning to forget what it is like out there in the deep North. But I know it is a different game.

Very glad everyone made it thru. A boat is a boat and can be fixed in the first harbour.

Cheers,
b.
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Europe, Iceland, Reykjavik, sail, sailing, weather


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need Slip in Annapolis Area Late September to Late November 4arch Monohull Sailboats 5 11-08-2015 10:38
Crew Available: Late June to Late September AnneWhite Crew Archives 2 28-04-2011 14:38
Too Late in Season for BVI's? Dreamcat Sailor Logs & Cruising Plans 3 10-04-2011 20:56
Late season crossing to VI from Charleston, SC brianontheroad Atlantic & the Caribbean 4 14-09-2008 15:43
Late Season Erie Canal trip AutumnBorne1 Meets & Greets 8 07-09-2007 06:56

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 22:08.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.