Inboard engines and a changing world

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Ric Sheridan

In time technology will catch up to the weight versus power consumption. But there is no replacing the instant power you get from putting new fuel in the tank versus waiting for the batteries to charge. I would think the link of propane will be the first to replace gas/diesel before a total electric conversion. IDK but I would assume propane is available in most parts of the globe. Good topic all. Cold fusion is best but then that would cancel even the sailing parting of cruising wouldn't it? West marine has a special on Flux Capacitors this month!

Propane won't replace diesel due to the energy density issue .

[transmitterdan]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Propane won't replace diesel due to the energy density issue .

Propane also has a safety issue that diesel does not. Propane will never replace diesel.

[Lazerbrains]

Plutonium is the future! An ounce produces 1.21 gigawatts of power.

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by Jammer

We're not at the tipping point yet but it will come. The technology is there, it works, it scales, the hard problems have all been solved. In 10 years gasoline cars will be specialty items at the dealership and in 20 years it's going to start to get hard to find a gas station..

The tipping point is going to move, firstly because the costs come down but in Europe they have all signed up to removing petrol and diesel cars by xxxx. The UK I Think is 2035 after which no new cars. How to achieve this? well just slowly increase the taxes on fuel. Currently about £1.12 a litre for petrol of which some 58% is tax to the state, oh and then they charge VAT on that tax at another 20%. That £1.12 per litre is equal to $5.43 for a US gallon.

Easy to increase the fuel tax until folk see the financial benefits of driving an EV car. After all few cars do more than that 300 miles per day quote by EM.

Pete

[transmitterdan]

Why don’t we raise taxes on chemotherapy so we can get a faster cure for cancer?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Pete7

The tipping point is going to move, firstly because the costs come down but in Europe they have all signed up to removing petrol and diesel cars by xxxx. The UK I Think is 2035 after which no new cars. How to achieve this? well just slowly increase the taxes on fuel. Currently about £1.12 a litre for petrol of which some 58% is tax to the state, oh and then they charge VAT on that tax at another 20%. That £1.12 per litre is equal to $5.43 for a US gallon.

Easy to increase the fuel tax until folk see the financial benefits of driving an EV car. After all few cars do more than that 300 miles per day quote by EM.

Pete

Do you like to eat??

That's thanks to diesel . A fact that won't change in several lifetimes.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Lazerbrains

Plutonium is the future! An ounce produces 1.21 gigawatts of power.

On backorder

[Chotu]

I think I was right.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Chotu

I think I was right.

Nothing but political pandering it will not go good for gm if they actually try to follow through

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Nothing but political pandering it will not go good for gm if they actually try to follow through

The US car market has 15yr to evolve to the point that it would be a rational decision for GM to make. Writing is on the wall, change is coming whether we want it or not.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Adelie

The US car market has 15yr to evolve to the point that it would be a rational decision for GM to make. Writing is on the wall, change is coming whether we want it or not.

We shall see . But diesel is what feeds the world . Its not going away .

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by newhaul

We shall see . But diesel is what feeds the world . Its not going away .

There will always be a demand for liquid fuels, there is no reasonable alternative for certain uses. That said they can be eliminated in a lot of places, and use significantly reduced in most others. And the demand that remains can be met from alternative sources, namely electro-fuels: synthetic gasoline, diesel & ammonia

Even farming could eliminate a lot of fuel use.

[Sailing Ohm]

Originally Posted by newhaul

We shall see . But diesel is what feeds the world . Its not going away .

The sun is truly what feeds the world

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Sailing Ohm

The sun is truly what feeds the world

True and where did oil come from ?

The problem is for me diesel is the only thing that can get my team driven trucks from florida to seattle without stopping for more than a few hours all the way .
Solo yes can charge during the 8 bunk hours but team is different that truck has to keep rolling . That means diesel fuel.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Adelie

There will always be a demand for liquid fuels, there is no reasonable alternative for certain uses. That said they can be eliminated in a lot of places, and use significantly reduced in most others. And the demand that remains can be met from alternative sources, namely electro-fuels: synthetic gasoline, diesel & ammonia

Even farming could eliminate a lot of fuel use.

Yes but some areas will always be dependant on liquid fuels. Primarily fossil fuels.