"Bluewater" Boat Threads

[CruiseN]

Bulk heads and sealable passage way locks.

I don't understand the physics of hull strengthening, every boat is different. Yet being able to control a breached hull via plugs, rivers and ponds is on my concern.
I am scared of shipping containers, we simply don't have that worry in our isolated part of our world. We are due south of our North Pole. Yet I intend to get lost.

Most the vessels I look at have a v berth cabin. That'd have probability of taking most of the impact. After hit, chances are that the obstacle will slide along the hull.
If hull is breached it'd be nice to plug the bilge at bulkhead to prevent a river, divert a tube to use a pump to head that river out to the ocean and simply buy some time to repair after busy weather has past. Hoping that floatation requirements are kept. If one had time, could always throw fenders and other floats into breached cabin to reduce waters weight. If I still had my duck and I had a vessel I'd contemplate berthing that there because it was a military duck designed to self inflate when dropped out of aircraft. Not very big until required.
Cons are loss of such if vessel sinks.
Pros are it's out of the way on long passages and every crew I've sailed with preferred aft and midship berths due to comfort.

Even with some modern bulkhead designs that work loose. Sikaflex boarder would have give and help prevent flooding enabling flood control to be from a low pressure plug, river and pump below. Buying time to pump secure cabin dry before tubing rivers run into a suitable pump.
Aft cabins another bonus. Lockdown, secure decks and fix problems.

Like said earlier. Long keels versus fin keels. Fast cruisers tend to have a long keel that's cut out hence they look like a shark fin. Still a long keel as opposed to a vertical tapered edge. Tapered edge is probably faster with traction increasing with flow rate yet a keel that works its way down helps pass obstacles. Some cut the mid/aft ships out of their keel designs to gain performance and skeg hang a rudder. By time obstacle has hit keel, keel has much higher chances of taking impact off square and as obstacle and vessel accelerate away from each other, rudder system doesn't have as big an insecurity anyhow.
Making berthing life a lot easier to move around in tight marinas.

Just sharing thoughts. Simple works best. Eg know your boat and plan plots according to your own safety.

[sailorboy1]

You know, there are other threads. You have drifted this one to death already and it is doubtful people are reading it now. Those that started on the thread have mostly stopped now that it drifted away. New readers most likely would not make to this point to read your new drift topic/question.

[CruiseN]

Yes sir,

I just found them. This one pops up in my email and I'm injured, bored , can't sit down properly, without posture afew weeks..

Was just reading a thread regarding flooding and bilge compartments, bulkheads and doors.
Thanks aye.. I picked up on some research to do from this.
Just an admirer of seaworthy vessels

[Sailmonkey]

Originally Posted by sailorboy1

You know, there are other threads. You have drifted this one to death already and it is doubtful people are reading it now. Those that started on the thread have mostly stopped now that it drifted away. New readers most likely would not make to this point to read your new drift topic/question.

That’s no lie

CruiseN. You need to take a step back and look at what you’ve done here.

[Dogscout]

Are Boston Whaler skiffs Bluewater? Cause those two brothers who took theirs from South Carolina to Scotland might wanna give an opinion on that. certainly not comfortable cruising, and the head is a bit exposed, but what really is comfort?

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Dogscout

Are Boston Whaler skiffs Bluewater? Cause those two brothers who took theirs from South Carolina to Scotland might wanna give an opinion on that. certainly not comfortable cruising, and the head is a bit exposed, but what really is comfort?

Well, if you're going that route, Steven Callahan crossed 1800 miles of ocean in a 6 man Avon Liferaft.

That's a Bluewater LifeRaft for sure.

Posted from Thomm's Lenovo ThinkPad aboard his Bluewater Bristol 27 Sailboat

[CruiseN]

Originally Posted by Sailmonkey

That’s no lie

CruiseN. You need to take a step back and look at what you’ve done here.

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Seen.
Must have been bored and surrounded by friends..
I'm out..on a following note;

Hobie 18 sailing dinghy made Transatlantic crossing in 18 days, 22 hours.
Not my ideal bluewater passage maker; they did mention wet sleeps; sleeps attached vertically to mast..

[CruiseN]

Sailorboy,
Thanks for thread.
Now I don't know if I'm rude or helpful.

Confusion would be plenty with many.

Mast step? Deck steps also remove a lot of want of lightning strike being a larger inductor than a close to water keel step. Instead of chaining chain plate, just hope with everyone else that one of the steel boats takes the short path near by.

Found a full keel boat that would reach really fast. Adams 13. They're still being made I believe. Stern hung rudder nice and easy to replace if broken, dagger boards giving great flowing traction.
But looks like a wet ride if needing to punch into the southern swells during conditions,
But being a cruiser , why?? Turn and run to other port.. ??

They're on my look at list, because they look like a small boat hidden by a 43 foot stretch.

This is Christmas Cove. You wouldn't fit. Before development, that natural cove didn't have marina slips. In a 4 day 70knot northerly, 4 of us littler vessels (3 Bluewater stink diving boats plus a trailer sailer) hugged in rippling water. Towards east of cove was motion.

Looking forward to Hells Gates.

Bonus floatation being foam core but the friggit water around there is reported as a 20 minute life cycle.
Lost in space too bro. :Thumb:

[Nauticus]

My girls nearly 50 and she sails just fine. A bit of expected maintenance and a lockdown slowed my opening and maintenance schedule but she'll splash.

[Rockinar]

When they say "Im looking for a bluewater boat" you know this much:

1) Zero sailing experience.
2) Subscribed to Sailing Doodles.
3) Retirement is not for "probably few more years".
4) Has not told the wife of the plans.
5) Budget is $20K.
6) Boat needs to be 40 feet.
7) Already purchased a new VHF radio for the boat.

[Blue Crab]

Originally Posted by Rockinar

When they say "Im looking for a bluewater boat" you know this much:

1) Zero sailing experience.
2) Subscribed to Sailing Doodles.
3) Retirement is not for "probably few more years".
4) Has not told the wife of the plans.
5) Budget is $20K.
6) Boat needs to be 40 feet.
7) Already purchased a new VHF radio for the boat.

Exactamundo. Plus I think Callahan's book should be required reading before posting on sailing forums. He proved (and not for the first time) that the voyage isn't about the boat. Moreover, nice big very well equipped boats are abandoned all the time when conditions get scary; those are the readers that ask these kinds of questions in the first place.

[double u]

Originally Posted by Rockinar

When they say "Im looking for a bluewater boat" you know this much:

1) Zero sailing experience.
2) Subscribed to Sailing Doodles.
3) Retirement is not for "probably few more years".
4) Has not told the wife of the plans.
5) Budget is $20K.
6) Boat needs to be 40 feet.
7) Already purchased a new VHF radio for the boat.

Finally on topic & SPOT ON!