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24-02-2015, 03:09
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
Ah... the lost tribe of the Huon..... the tribe all the other Tasmanian aboriginals reckon are phonies....
Morse? well, me for one... meanwhile try spelling out a long name phonetically on VHF.
I guess kangaroo and wombat are english words as well.
Mind you I was surprised a while back to find that picanniny was portuguese.
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24-02-2015, 03:14
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
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Just a warning guys, I'll immediately report any racist crap to the moderators, so don't go there if that's the intent.
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Who is being racist? Just pointing out that indiginous Australians do give names to 'stuff'....
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24-02-2015, 03:19
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
With a bit unusual name it's more clear to use it together with the description of the vessel like "sailing yacht Unnesessary Complications" (it's a real name of sailing dinghy) or "MV Doesn't Matter". Makes it easier to understand IMHO..
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24-02-2015, 03:28
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
Meanwhile...back in the land of the thread drift...
'In April 2000, the Tasmanian Government Legislative Council Select Committee on Aboriginal Lands discussed the difficulty of determining Aboriginality based on oral traditions. An example given by Prof. Cassandra Pybus was the claim by the Huon and Channel Aboriginal people who had an oral history of descent from two Indigenous women. Research found that both were white convict women. '
...thus the 'lost tribe of the Huon'. ..
mas aqui
Aboriginal Tasmanians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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24-02-2015, 03:37
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
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Originally Posted by Rustic Charm
If your intending on your boat being Off Shore purposes, then everything should be run through a safety view. And the name of a boat for safety purposes is exceptionally important. It needs to sound easily and clearly over a radio without the hearer thinking, 'what the hell was that'? And then having to repeat the question trying to identify the name repeatedly.
I recently considered changing the name of my boat to a local Aborigional name, which sounds sort of ok on the radio, but no one would have a clue how to spell it, probably wouldn't know how to repeat it either. Though in the end I decided not to as the local Aborigional custom is not to give any man made items Aborigional names so, that finished that.
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Coming down the ICW in Florida, I spent a half a day listening to a South American boat that had this pretty name in Spanish, but it was looooong and two words, which he had to spell phonetically at every bridge.
Two months later, as I was leaving Nassau, I heard the same boat, going through the same routine.
On deciding our boat's name, we passed on a number that meant a lot ot us, but were too cute, too confusing, too long, etc.
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24-02-2015, 03:38
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
Ah... the lost tribe of the Huon..... the tribe all the other Tasmanian aboriginals reckon are phonies....
Morse? well, me for one... meanwhile try spelling out a long name phonetically on VHF.
I guess kangaroo and wombat are english words as well.
Mind you I was surprised a while back to find that picanniny was portuguese.
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Yes, kangaroo and wombat are both English names. YES. Did you think they were French?
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24-02-2015, 03:42
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
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Meanwhile...back in the land of the thread drift...
'In April 2000, the Tasmanian Government Legislative Council Select Committee on Aboriginal Lands discussed the difficulty of determining Aboriginality based on oral traditions. An example given by Prof. Cassandra Pybus was the claim by the Huon and Channel Aboriginal people who had an oral history of descent from two Indigenous women. Research found that both were white convict women. '
...thus the 'lost tribe of the Huon'. ..
mas aqui
Aboriginal Tasmanians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Ok, I get you now. I gave out the warning because like Wotname, I wasn't sure whether you were about to move into an area of racism. But I'm happy that wasn't your intent.
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24-02-2015, 03:44
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
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Originally Posted by Dauntlessny
Coming down the ICW in Florida, I spent a half a day listening to a South American boat that had this pretty name in Spanish, but it was looooong and two words, which he had to spell phonetically at every bridge.
Two months later, as I was leaving Nassau, I heard the same boat, going through the same routine.
On deciding our boat's name, we passed on a number that meant a lot ot us, but were too cute, too confusing, too long, etc.
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there was a police boat in Tasmania called 'Dauntless'.
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24-02-2015, 03:45
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dauntlessny
Coming down the ICW in Florida, I spent a half a day listening to a South American boat that had this pretty name in Spanish, but it was looooong and two words, which he had to spell phonetically at every bridge.
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Same but opposite with me... I have learnt to say my boat's name in Spanish ... same words but pronounced in spanish... 'oesterly serenaday'.. still a bugger to spell
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24-02-2015, 03:45
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
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Originally Posted by Rustic Charm
Who in this day and age can spell anything in 'morse'?
Seriously ?
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do you need a translation?
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24-02-2015, 03:57
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
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24-02-2015, 04:02
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
It was
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24-02-2015, 04:03
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
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It was
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Spacing doesn't work well here so I'll do it vertically
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Better now?
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24-02-2015, 04:08
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
Is that Gerke? Thats different....and so very continental
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24-02-2015, 04:24
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Re: Apostrophes & Boat Names
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Is that Gerke? Thats different....and so very continental
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yes, It is Gerke's (note the correct use of the apostrophe) International Telegraph Alphabet (the one that replaced the original Morse sometime in the mid-1800's (note the correct use again).
The original morse was phased out and replaced by Gerke's (note again) via a resolution by the International Telegraph Union in Paris in 1865.
So in reality, it should not be called morse code, but rather Gerke code (ahhh the fickle finger of history)
But back to the original supposition - yes some of use are still capable of using morse (I'll use that connotation since no one (yourself excepted) has the faintest idea of who Gerke was).
Indeed some of us can still use signal flags.
As noted - the world is changing and not for the better
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