BREXIT

[weavis]

Originally Posted by atoll

good news is phill will now be able to afford a bottle of wine to go with his turkey now the pound has gained some of it value........in other boris news!

"We are open for business now, and we will soon be accepting serious cash offers for the sale of a small whiskey producing province to the north and on some good farmland with sea views to the west.accessed by a short ferry ride.cash buyers only.also on sale is an ailing health service,ideal for asset stripping.....sadly our ports ,railways,airports,post offices gas industry and water distribution network will not be for sale"(,as these were sold off by previous conservative regimes.........)

er... I rarely pay more than 4Euros, closer to 3 for top quality wine in Spain. I think Portugal is equally cheap. I pay €1 euro a pint of beer.

I consider going back to spain in due course.......... I like it.. and the weather. As for the UK? there is an affinty for getting it all wrong even if we leave the EU (right choice) but UK could not organise a bun fight in a bakery.

[weavis]

And furthermore, I have always loved French wine. However, Spanish Ribera del Duero wine has become a world leader. I have never had a bad taste and to be honest, has overtaken Rioja in quality.

I could live with it.. and pay€ 4 something for it...

[uk_canadian]

If Brexit happens on January 31st, I'll eat my keel (with worcestershire sauce).

[mikedefieslife]

Originally Posted by uk_canadian

If Brexit happens on January 31st, I'll eat my keel (with worcestershire sauce).

Salsa Inglesa it's called here.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by uk_canadian

If Brexit happens on January 31st, I'll eat my keel (with worcestershire sauce).

You might find it goes better with HP sauce....but like you, I don't think it will happen.

[BugzyCan]

The UK is about the size of Oregon. I can't imagine Oregon doing all that well if it decided to separate from the US, but I wish all you guys the best.

We had a similar threat many years ago when Quebec threatened to separate from Canada, and everyone thought they were nuts, and Quebec is considerably larger than UK. Fortunately that never happened. Strength in numbers.

Oh, and Scotland takes up a third of that area too, so if they remain with EU, then UK is really left out there. Better get working on those free trade agreements, and expect a lot of costs to skyrocket.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by BugzyCan

The UK is about the size of Oregon. I can't imagine Oregon doing all that well if it decided to separate from the US, but I wish all you guys the best.

We had a similar threat many years ago when Quebec threatened to separate from Canada, and everyone thought they were nuts, and Quebec is considerably larger than UK. Fortunately that never happened. Strength in numbers.

I dont think you get it. Canada is one country with ostensibly one culture. Britain is divided by language, culture, heritage, isolation, currency and fish and chips (now curry)

Britain doesnt really get on as a nation with everyone else.

Britain doesnt do well ruled by others..

[GordMay]

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, uk_canadian.

[mikedefieslife]

Originally Posted by BugzyCan

The UK is about the size of Oregon. I can't imagine Oregon doing all that well if it decided to separate from the US, but I wish all you guys the best.

We had a similar threat many years ago when Quebec threatened to separate from Canada, and everyone thought they were nuts, and Quebec is considerably larger than UK. Fortunately that never happened. Strength in numbers.

Oregon has a tiny population though (4m) and a small gdp ($200bn). Compared to the UK with a population of 66m and a GDP of $2.6tn. A better comparison would be with California, which absolutely could survive perfectly well as its own nation.

The whole comparison though is a bit silly considering the UK has a been a united nation for centuries, and the nations within it for over a millennium

[john61ct]

Size is definitely not a requirement for Goss National Happiness.

There are **lots** of countries smaller than the UK that are well managed, in the sense that policies are based on evidence and rationality, mostly designed to benefit the ordinary people, rather than the banks and wealthiest shareholders.

Some of them even in the Anglosphere.

A quality and egalitarian public education system is definitely one prerequisite.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by BugzyCan

The UK is about the size of Oregon. I can't imagine Oregon doing all that well if it decided to separate from the US, but I wish all you guys the best.
We had a similar threat many years ago when Quebec threatened to separate from Canada, and everyone thought they were nuts, and Quebec is considerably larger than UK. Fortunately that never happened. Strength in numbers...

You’re assuming false equivalencies:
U.K Population = 66.44 million (2018), CANADA = 37.59 million, Québec =8.485 million, & Oregon = 4.191 million.

Considering that the 50 smallest countries, by landmass, are each less than one-quarter of the size of Rhode Island; and the 50 smallest countries, by population are each about one-sixth the size of Washington, D.C., it really is a small world after all.
The 10 smallest countries in the world cover a total area of 1491.4 km², which is smaller than the area of the city of Houston, Texas (1625.2 km²).

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by uk_canadian

If Brexit happens on January 31st, I'll eat my keel (with worcestershire sauce).

Well I am hoping the -45 majority Written Agreement is converted to a +80 majority WTO BREXIT..
I have a Dream..

[weavis]

None of you get it.

Imagine a sovereign country like Britain ruled by 28 Papua New guineas who ban certain foods, certain ways of doing things and control your military and taxes...

THAT is the reality. Another country or countries have the last word.

This is not a political post. This is the written constitution of membership.

Let's not forget the 1 million people-immigrants that Britain has been constitutionally forced to accept.

And in the acceptance is the £20 billion a year it constitutionally has to pay for the privilege.

I have got used to saurkraut, but only on hotdogs and Pastrami and Rye.

[john61ct]

It's only a political post if the viewpoint is opposed to yours.

If after the downsides have been resolved, transition managed well for the first few years, and life then starts to improve for the average Briton after leaving, then

in 20/20 hindsite it will have been a wise move.

If it turns out the citizens of Spain, Italy and Poland are much better off in ten years, and the UK continues to slide, then leaving will have been a pretty shortsighted mistake, no matter how happy the oligarchs and banksters are.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by john61ct

It's only a political post if the viewpoint is opposed to yours.

If after the downsides have been resolved, transition managed well for the first few years, and life then starts to improve for the average Briton after leaving, then

in 20/20 hindsite it will have been a wise move.

If it turns out the citizens of Spain, Italy and Poland are much better off in ten years, and the UK continues to slide, then leaving will have been a pretty shortsighted mistake, no matter how happy the oligarchs and banksters are.

Continues to slide..??? Yore havin a larf..
Less unemployment than most other EU countries, not in recession, GBP on the rise, Investors still coming in.
Macron, Merkel et al have puckering sphincters coz they know it makes us a threat..
The bright side for US sailors is you have another get out from Schengen.
The only way is up.. the rest is remainer Project Fear.