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11-05-2016, 17:19
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Name that Part - Alternator Edition
Ok here's one....anyone have an idea what this is?
Came off of our STB alternator. Some sort of jumper harness that isn't Yanmar.
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11-05-2016, 17:53
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
I believe the blue object to be a capacitor and I suspect it was a radio static suppression device.
Found a page with an explanation that may be of help, scroll down to the section on alternators.
Easy solutions to Radio Frequency Interference
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12-05-2016, 08:34
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
That appears to be some sort of suppression device. They may have been getting alternator noise on one of the radios or electronic devices. Take it off and see if you start getting a buzzing sound somewhere that goes up and down with engine rpm.
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12-05-2016, 08:59
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
Yep, that's a ceramic disc capacitor. Good for high voltage/ low amperage.
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12-05-2016, 09:05
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
It also appears to be in series with a diode which makes no sense at all.
The capacitor (if that is what the blue part is) would charge and stay charged to peak voltage, rendering it incapable of any further action.
The blue part might be a metal oxide varistor which would act as a short duration transient voltage dump.
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12-05-2016, 09:25
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
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Originally Posted by senormechanico
It also appears to be in series with a diode which makes no sense at all.
The capacitor (if that is what the blue part is) would charge and stay charged to peak voltage, rendering it incapable of any further action.
The blue part might be a metal oxide varistor which would act as a short duration transient voltage dump.
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Good point on the Diode, I thought that was wire but on closer inspection it's a diode. The diode is like a valve only allowing voltage one direction. Not that uncommon on some installations, but the Cap... is mounted in series which is a bit weird...
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12-05-2016, 12:59
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
Capacitor and diode in series doesn't make sense to me.
I would simply not worry until something stops working
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12-05-2016, 13:17
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
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Originally Posted by twowheel
....anyone have an idea what this is?
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It looks "Home Brew" to me.
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13-05-2016, 06:09
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
Hah, this thread sounds like the dialog in my brain around this thing.
What I first thought was a ceramic capacitor (blue) actually seems to be a varistor wired inline with a capacitor.
In digging around the Beneteau parts site I found what seems to be the same thing but of newer design. Now if I can just figure out the specs so I can make one...or two.
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13-05-2016, 06:47
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
I'm guessing either a thermister (current limiting / auto reseting device) or a capicative coupler on an AC winding for, perhaps, the tacho input.
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13-05-2016, 08:09
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
It's an MOV, I used to use them with telemetry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varistor
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13-05-2016, 09:29
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
It looks like a TSP-12 look on the Balmar.net website TSP stands for transient Spike Protector it is a fused diode that is designed to fail before your alternators diodes fail.
no silly quote just good business
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13-05-2016, 15:28
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Re: Name that Part - Alternator Edition
Different name, but still the same device.
Metal Oxide Varistor, Transient Spike Protector.
The higher the applied voltage, the lower the resistance.
This happens almost instantly, thus the protection against a spike.
Definitely NOT a capacitor.
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