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[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by scoobert

actually that was a widely spread internet joke from when in 2001 the french refused to help in Iraq. the photo still exists, thou the process to get the results no longer works.

and i didn't list any defeats. remember the french lost first in Vietnam and were driven from the country.

Yes and given the mess in Iraq, the french made a very wise decision,

I notice little press was given in the US that while the Brits backed out of Syria , the french didn't and were prepared to act if the US acted.

really Scoobert , lets no descend in racial stereotypes. Ive have to start making red neck jokes or something

[scoobert]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Yes and given the mess in Iraq, the french made a very wise decision,

I notice little press was given in the US that while the Brits backed out of Syria , the french didn't and were prepared to act if the US acted.

really Scoobert , lets no descend in racial stereotypes. Ive have to start making red neck jokes or something

the population of the US don't want to go into Syria.
we do not care about them killing each other.
we are too broke for more wars.
and green pieces screwing with oil drilling is hurting us.

[boatman61]

When your subsidies stop and you start paying EU prices you can squeal about pain...
Anyway... I thought you guys were bragging about being self sufficient these days..

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by scoobert

the population of the US don't want to go into Syria.
we do not care about them killing each other.
we are too broke for more wars.
..

good, sense is finally dawning

i would add

the population of the US don't want to go into Syria.
we do not care about them killing each other.
we are too broke for more wars.
and none of it worked out anyway

..

[scoobert]

some say that oil would be $200 a barrel now if we had not gone in. i call it a success.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by scoobert

some say that oil would be $200 a barrel now if we had not gone in. i call it a success.

I doubt it, nor would all theses who died especially the huge civilian deaths agree with you


as Winston Churchill said

" you can always rely on the Amercians doing the right thing, after they have tried everything else first"

dave

[scoobert]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

I doubt it, nor would all theses who died especially the huge civilian deaths agree with you

you mean deaths of those in Iraq, Afghanistan?
the ones that were dying anyway?

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by scoobert

you mean deaths of those in Iraq, Afghanistan?
the ones that were dying anyway?

I know you and many of your fellow country men are better informed then that

over 125,000 civilian casualties from the resulting invasion and occupation of Irag alone, To suggest these would have died anyway is deeply insulting to any examination of what happened. Furthermore the resulting instability in Iraq will and is causing further deaths for years to come.

Ultimately the very actions taken will result in a religious hegemony stretching over the persoan gulf and North Africa into the middle and far north east. A religious hegemony that the US is primarily responsible for starting quite frankly

ALl over mythical WMDs. seriously lets not defend the indefensible. Countries make mistakes, this was one of them ( and Afghanistan)

AT least with Syria, cool sense prevailed in the end ( and of course the Russians played a blinder and pulled a fast one)

dave

[scoobert]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

I know you and many of your fellow country men are better informed then that

over 125,000 civilian casualties from the resulting invasion and occupation of Irag alone, To suggest these would have died anyway is deeply insulting to any examination of what happened. Furthermore the resulting instability in Iraq will and is causing further deaths for years to come.

Ultimately the very actions taken will result in a religious hegemony stretching over the persoan gulf and North Africa into the middle and far north east. A religious hegemony that the US is primarily responsible for starting quite frankly

ALl over mythical WMDs. seriously lets not defend the indefensible. Countries make mistakes, this was one of them ( and Afghanistan)

AT least with Syria, cool sense prevailed in the end ( and of course the Russians played a blinder and pulled a fast one)

dave

i do not care about WMD's. if they said they were going in to keep oil cheep, count me in.
sadam was killing people all over the place, and would have kept feeding people into his wood chipper if he stayed in power. and no, i could care less about a holy war that has been going on for 3500 years. they have been killing each other, they will keep killing each other.
125,000 fatalities is well worth it, until natural gas becomes our major fuel in the US and our ally's, then they can go back to goat herding in the middle east.
very few care. and most that do care do not want $20 a gallon petrol.
i am just one of the honest few who will not pretend.

[goboatingnow]

sadam was killing people all over the place, and would have kept feeding people into his wood chipper if he stayed in power

so is Al-assad, but hey …. ( not to mention Rwanda, Sierra Leone, etc , I see no marines there)

125,000 fatalities is well worth it, until natural gas becomes our major fuel in the US and our ally's, then they can go back to goat herding in the middle east.
very few care. and most that do care do not want $20 a gallon petrol.
i am just one of the honest few who will not pretend.

wow, no wonder you will be overrun by Jihadists, remember whose first up against the wall when the revolution comes……..

dave

[avb3]

To much politics. Thread closed.