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04-02-2019, 07:43
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: West Coast
Boat: 2000 Hunter 340
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knot top dead center of steering wheel?
I've seen a small piece of rope (leather?) tied on the TDC of the steering wheel on a number of boats. I'd like to put one on my boat. What type of knot is typically used?
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04-02-2019, 07:48
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: san diego
Boat: yorktown custom 40' cutter
Posts: 322
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
triple turks head is salty, but a simple whipping will work too.
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04-02-2019, 07:58
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Join Date: Oct 2015
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
The most sophisticated knot to mark the “king spoke” is the three legged Turks head. It’s permanent, it feels good under hand, and looks sharp.
It’s worth doing little things like this “right” because every time you look at it you’ll feel warm and fuzzy in a way a “simple whipping” would never do. Heck, if you’re going down market, a piece of tape will do.
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05-02-2019, 06:27
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Sailing Lake Ontario
Boat: Mirage 35
Posts: 1,161
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
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Originally Posted by billknny
Heck, if you’re going down market, a piece of tape will do.
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Thanks for confirming that my handicraft is classed “down market”.
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05-02-2019, 06:38
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,773
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
I've also always just used a piece of tape.
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05-02-2019, 07:00
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
Boat: Luders 33 - hull 23
Posts: 1,800
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
Quote:
Originally Posted by windlass79
I've seen a small piece of rope (leather?) tied on the TDC of the steering wheel on a number of boats. I'd like to put one on my boat. What type of knot is typically used?
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4 lead, 3 bight turk's head knot - Paracord guild
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05-02-2019, 07:47
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
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05-02-2019, 09:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Alert Bay, Vancouver Island
Boat: 35ft classic ketch/yawl.
Posts: 2,002
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
It id s worth initially using tape to ensure it is in the right place. Most boats require some windward tiller when on the wind (creates some keel lift). Usually between 5 & 10 deg. You could then use 2 knots one for each tack. Off the wind you would be in the middle.
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05-02-2019, 09:36
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: home town Wellington, NZ and Savusavu Fiji
Boat: Reinke S10 & Raven 26
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
Knots are pretty awesome.
Here's a link top someone that's taken them to an extreme: Windy Chien's Year of Knots.
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05-02-2019, 09:44
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 82
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
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05-02-2019, 09:59
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Southern Maine
Boat: Prairie 36 Coastal Cruiser
Posts: 3,343
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
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Originally Posted by jakkum
hydraulic steering?
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My first thought. With two helm pumps and one autopilot pump, my steering wheels will never be in the same position at 0-degree rudder twice.
My favorite wheel-mounted rudder position indicator was a small, round plastic disk with a spiral inside, which held a steel ball. Sort of like those little maze puzzle toys you see in kids' party favors. The ball would move in or out through the spiral channels by gravity when the wheel turned. When the ball was in a certain spot, the rudder was dead center.
Never saw another one, but I still remember it as a very elegant solution, if not as salty-looking as a Turk's head knot.
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05-02-2019, 10:05
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Alaska
Boat: Boatless
Posts: 928
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
Quote:
Originally Posted by windlass79
I've seen a small piece of rope (leather?) tied on the TDC of the steering wheel on a number of boats. I'd like to put one on my boat. What type of knot is typically used?
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Helm, the steering wheel is in your car :-)
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05-02-2019, 10:46
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Kingston Ont Canada
Boat: Looking for my next boat!
Posts: 3,101
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
My young daughter loves knots. So, on a previous boat with a wheel, she upgraded the marker on the wheel to a beautiful turks head knot. When I purchased my next boat, a Pearson 30 with a tiller, she proceeded to put a turks head around the tiller handle. Presumably to mark "centre", LOL. But it did look nice and had a nice feel to it as well.
FWIW, anyone who fell asleep aboard with an arm dangling/ exposed would wake up with a turks head bracelet on their wrist. This was when she was around 10 years old.
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05-02-2019, 11:06
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2015
Boat: Land bound, previously Morgan 462
Posts: 1,994
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
Quote:
Originally Posted by billknny
The most sophisticated knot to mark the “king spoke” is the three legged Turks head. It’s permanent, it feels good under hand, and looks sharp.
It’s worth doing little things like this “right” because every time you look at it you’ll feel warm and fuzzy in a way a “simple whipping” would never do. Heck, if you’re going down market, a piece of tape will do.
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Thank you for teaching me a new term, "down market" though not quite certain what that means. Anyway my boat came with a piece of black electrical tape wrapped around the wheel in that magic spot. But with time, hydraulic steering will slip a little in one or the other direction and that tape was no longer near where it should be.
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05-02-2019, 11:25
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Bay of Fundy,Grand Manan,N.B.,Canada N44.40 W66.50
Boat: Mascot 28 pilothouse motorsailer 28ft
Posts: 3,580
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Re: knot top dead center of steering wheel?
French whipping See Jan-Feb 2019 GoodOldBoat mag. / Len
https://www.netknots.com/rope_knots/french-whipping
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