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12-01-2022, 04:29
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
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Originally Posted by boatman61
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Although below sounds ungrateful - I am not - thanks a lot!!!
The wonderhow link gives results for 3-strand AFAICS and I know the Yumpu doc, but I cant follow it
However, the youtube link at the end (which I could only see properly whilst replying for some reason) gave this as the next suggestion:
https://youtu.be/L-qupDEuaQM?t=270
Thanks
Would still love a clear diagrams with text tho
I'm a bit of a grump with 15 min youtube instructions to get across the info that could be done in 4 pictures and a few lines of text
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12-01-2022, 04:37
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
This is perhaps the same thing (?) but the way he does it looks easier to follow
https://youtu.be/jvpxWiDd7sI?t=69
Although I can read the German one, I have no idea even what language that one is in, but he does indicate what he's doing well
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12-01-2022, 04:56
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
The remaining 2 sets of tucks after the first tucks all go right to left.. if you want to taper it then after the 3rd lot of tucks cut 1/4 from each strand close to where the 3rd tucks come through, tuck in sequence, cut 1/4 more and repeat tucks, halve remaining tuck and complete final tucks.. trim off.
Important, tighten after each row of tucks for a good finish and strength.
Oh.. and I like to whip the end.
Here's a PDF...
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12-01-2022, 05:40
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
You're going to tuck in the order of the strands in the working end whether three or four strand. The question becomes how do you start. Convention, and it works, is that you put two strands over and one strand under the entry point with three strand. With four strand, put two over and two under. Divide the working end into pairs of strands that lie beside each other in the lay of the rope, and take up slack as you make the first tuck. You want the tuck to fit tightly against the entry point.
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12-01-2022, 05:43
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
Thanks to both!
I will attempt it and let you know how I get on
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12-01-2022, 15:48
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
There are good illustrations of several different 4 strand eye splices in Ashley's Book Of Knots.
Take a look at ABOK #2737 to #2742.
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12-01-2022, 20:09
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
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Originally Posted by StuM
There are good illustrations of several different 4 strand eye splices in Ashley's Book Of Knots.
Take a look at ABOK #2737 to #2742.
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Stu, I am aware of two quite different ways to splice 4 strand. (a) is essentially the same as with 3 strand - take the 4 strands around the intended loop, put two on top of the standing part and 3 under, and tuck 'against the braid' in order, (b) is essentially to take two strands up one side of the loop and the other two strands up the other side and make a 2 strand end to end splice at the top of the loop, with the tails long enough to continue the splice a few tucks into the standing part.
Are there other/additional fundamentally different ways?
(I dont have ashley at hand).
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12-01-2022, 23:44
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
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Originally Posted by Breaking Waves
Stu, I am aware of two quite different ways to splice 4 strand. (a) is essentially the same as with 3 strand - take the 4 strands around the intended loop, put two on top of the standing part and 3 under, and tuck 'against the braid' in order, (b) is essentially to take two strands up one side of the loop and the other two strands up the other side and make a 2 strand end to end splice at the top of the loop, with the tails long enough to continue the splice a few tucks into the standing part.
Are there other/additional fundamentally different ways?
(I dont have ashley at hand).
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Extract from relevant section.
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13-01-2022, 05:31
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
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Originally Posted by StuM
Extract from relevant section.
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Thanks, Ah, interesting, those are in what I called the 'similar to 3 strand' camp, and they are missing the '2 strand end to end' approach (I suppose that possibly could be elsewhere in the book?).
BTW, for the OP, I will share a dirty little secret about tuck splices . . . . for strength the actual tuck pattern (generally) does not matter much. It affects the esthetics of the finished splice, but for strength, if you get enough tucks (generally 4 or 5) and evenly tension all the strands (so they all share the load) then you still get the target strength even if you bungle the tuck pattern a bit. This knowledge will hopefully take a little of your psychological stress out when making these
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13-01-2022, 14:26
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
Thanks All!
I am now resenting my daughter's 12th birthday this weekend as I wont be able to sit in a corner quietly swearing at a piece of rope
But next week ...
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13-01-2022, 16:27
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
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Originally Posted by Breaking Waves
Thanks, Ah, interesting, those are in what I called the 'similar to 3 strand' camp, and they are missing the '2 strand end to end' approach (I suppose that possibly could be elsewhere in the book?).
BTW, for the OP, I will share a dirty little secret about tuck splices . . . . for strength the actual tuck pattern (generally) does not matter much. It affects the esthetics of the finished splice, but for strength, if you get enough tucks (generally 4 or 5) and evenly tension all the strands (so they all share the load) then you still get the target strength even if you bungle the tuck pattern a bit. This knowledge will hopefully take a little of your psychological stress out when making these 
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Evans, thanks for the above dose of good sense, backed by some careful testing. I hate to think of the time I've wasted re-doing splices that didn't look right to my poorly educated eye!
Jim
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17-01-2022, 12:06
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Re: Eye splice in 4-strand?
I still havent managed to try, but what about ABOK #2752?
Thats the first video I showed of the Irish guy
Looks very different
I didnt know that book - its amazing!
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