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Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 21-08-2019, 10:38
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

And if you don't like Spencer then how about Nature?


"The ocean is the largest sink for anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO2), having absorbed roughly 40 per cent of CO2 emissions since the...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 21-08-2019, 10:32
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

You apparently didn't read Spencer's post about it, or do you disagree on his statement?
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 21-08-2019, 10:27
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Specifically on this thread we have had the following arguments which Spencer and others would say are giving the skeptics a bad name because they ignore basic physics.

1. My favorite.. co2 can't...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 21-08-2019, 05:15
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

You are and I’ll comment on Dr Spencer’s comments on that part of it on a later post.

I will point out there have been lots of posts about the underlying science of CO2 climatic effects and there...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 21-08-2019, 04:41
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Lately there have been tons of posts about Roy Spencer . Exile frequently uses him as an example of a skeptic. Which prompted me to go read more from his website.

First I found a couple of...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 19-08-2019, 16:45
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Fortunately the amount of warming so far is 1C not 1.8C. remember 5C cooling had most of north America covered in ice.

When thinking about global temperature, remember that most of the earth is...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 19-08-2019, 12:56
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Do you actually read these papers???

Like this part...

" If this recent rate of decline is added to the analysis, the 8% probability estimate is now raised to between 15 and 20%.

A number of...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 18-08-2019, 16:58
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Okay.. I guess that sums up your understanding of the basic physics [emoji50] surprising given much time you argue on this topic.
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 18-08-2019, 16:34
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

I thought you read and understood the paper I suggested you read [emoji30].

When you say minuscule amount in the atmosphere, you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the fundamental...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 18-08-2019, 13:22
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Amazing...

There is very good agreement in the *science* world about the history of CO2 over the last 800k years. There is good agreement that the co2 has increased from 280 to 440 and is headed...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 18-08-2019, 03:21
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Really??? After all the threads on this, you are unsure? CO2 levels have been directly measured since the 50s when scientists started getting really worried about this. They have been reconstructed...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 18-08-2019, 03:06
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

The source of that graph is from a skeptic website from 2001. That original website doesn’t even seem to have the graph posted any more. Please see if you can find a similar graph in a scientific...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 17-08-2019, 08:25
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

BTW if you would actually read the article I posted, you would probably stop posting that graph of absorption or at least understand what it does and doesn’t mean. [emoji3]
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Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 17-08-2019, 08:03
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

I think this is a very good question. We know that 5C colder resulted in an ice age with most of Northern America covered in glaciers. I don’t think there much to rely on in last million years on...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 17-08-2019, 07:51
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

You said that only .04% of additional CO2 was from human sources. Please either retract that statement (post 1378) or specify where the source of CO2 come from.

I gave you a graph. No other...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 17-08-2019, 07:15
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

I was asking *you* where all the additional co2 is coming from. You tried to say that 99.94% of the recent increase in CO2 was from not fossil fuels. Please specify the source of the increase in CO2....
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 17-08-2019, 04:22
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

So for this large spike in CO2 in the last 100 years what natural source are you suggesting 99.96% of that came from?
Remember it is just math to take the amount of fossil fuels burned and calculate...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 16-08-2019, 17:49
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Thabk you for confirming that you didn’t actually read it.
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 16-08-2019, 17:41
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Of course the quoted percentage is wrong by an order of magnitude and is totally irrelevant as well. When people quote the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere trying to make the point it can’t matter...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 16-08-2019, 12:06
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Not actually sure if you read the article given your response. Where *specifically* in the article did you think the author failed to take into account the spherical nature of the earth?
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 15-08-2019, 20:43
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

Given that you studied climate science at a university, I assume you also took physics and chemistry. Below is a link to an article which is well written and short, nothing more complicated than what...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 15-08-2019, 15:04
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

"Pollutants are the contaminants that get introduced into the natural environment, beyond permitted limits, and cause deleterious effects to the inhabitants in a visible way.".

Sure seems like a...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 15-08-2019, 14:46
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

This is a new report from noaa. It confirms the report the earlier report from the European agency who use different datasets than noaa. Interestingly Spencer is always an outlier.

Also from the...
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 15-08-2019, 13:02
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

https://www.noaa.gov/news/july-2019-was-hottest-month-on-record-for-planet

Hottest month ever on record and record low extent of ice. Where is the ice age that newhaul predicts ? [emoji3]
Forum: Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 09-08-2019, 10:42
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Posted By AllenRbrts
Re: Ocean acidifcation .

True but the concentration of methane is about 500 times less than CO2, so it is a much more significant issue in the form of methane than the CO2 it produces when it decomposes.
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