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Forum: Monohull Sailboats 09-03-2014, 22:52
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

The righting on a Moody DS is mostly about the shape of the large and high topsides assuming it all stays together if rolled.
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 09-03-2014, 14:07
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

No Sailorboy1 I use the word some or maybe or many because my opinions do not cover all boats and all situations. If you feel I was attacking you I apologies as I was just returning a shot over the...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 09-03-2014, 13:58
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Polux,
Yes the race boats have improved and no the Sense is not a race boat nor does it carry the draft or the ballast that the open ocean racers do. You felt that the beam was the key to stability...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 09-03-2014, 12:29
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Whats your point Sailorboy1...I suspect while we cross oceans you'll still be sitting in your armchair.
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 09-03-2014, 12:00
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Look guys I love some Cats and I like modern boats and yes the modern boats are faster and roomy so I see the attraction but some of them are a bit iffy in more extreme weather. Aside from their...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 09-03-2014, 11:06
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Ya your right, those boats never rolled or stayed upside down!

Two years later, Autissier entered the Around Alone for the third time. She was leading the race in its third leg when—halfway...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 09-03-2014, 10:53
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Remember I didn't see the movie so I made an assumption but hey I'm not above doing what you suggested, LOL. By the way I would rather be in a Sense too for everyday sailing but while I don't know...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 09-03-2014, 09:08
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Polux,
I didn't see your movie but I'll make an assumption that the boat was under spinnaker and was rolling and started to lose control. I will believe that.. as these boats were optimized for...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 09-03-2014, 08:53
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

I'm not sure which Swans your talking about but I'll assume an S&S design. The righting moment on most of these designs will be higher than the Sense and actually will continue to be much stiffer as...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 09-03-2014, 07:59
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Well to be frank I'd rather be in a Cat in a storm than a Benni Sense. I was introduced to Cat sailing by Blair on Capricorn Cat a 45 footer in the Marshall Islands. I was not a lover of Cats until I...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 08-03-2014, 23:57
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Lots of folks must really take some of this stuff personally. I understand justifying your individual choice and I also know that like religion very few people actually change their minds even when...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 08-03-2014, 18:51
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Yes Cats do have a low AVS but then again they are not designed to be self righting, if you go turtle, you stay there. That can also be an issue with super beamy boats as they can be just as stable...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 08-03-2014, 07:29
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Well I think one discussion was on particle board and that morphed into engineered panels which I am pretty sure was not used on the Sense. Some of the more expensive Cats and mono hulls use high...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 08-03-2014, 02:45
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Colmj: Yes I have seen the sandwiched panels some even done in honey comb and they are indeed light and strong and I consider them high quality although I have never seen them used in cheap...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 19:09
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

I would not place too much credence in a boat test by a sailing magazine as they are nothing without ad revenue and the builders do a lot of advertising. I think its fair today to say that pretty...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 19:01
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Actually teak in older quality boats is not necessarily heavy. The bulkheads are generally a high quality teak plywood as is most of the interior cabinets with solid teak trim. Its really unlikely...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 10:13
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

I think its a stretch to suggest that the design comes from an offshore racer, other than the extreme beam run aft there is little else in common. These boats were not intended for crossing oceans...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-03-2014, 02:18
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

We are in the same boat but one has to consider the fact that builders sell very few boats to voyagers.
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 06-03-2014, 22:55
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

The new mono hulls are starting to compete with Cats. The builders know that almost all boats sit in marinas and are sailed less and less every year. Its about how they function as a live a board...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 06-03-2014, 08:51
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

If the boat you are buying has brass fittings below the waterline and particle board cabinets your are buying a cheaply built boat and where you cant see further short cuts will have taken...
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-02-2014, 06:42
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

Yikes, hard to believe because it doesn't make any sense for someone like HR to allow crap into one of their boats.
Forum: Monohull Sailboats 07-02-2014, 00:58
Replies: 262
Views: 74,494
Posted By robert sailor
Re: Beneteau Sense Quality Issues

One of the things that has always been in the back of my mind is this.

If quality is important and the product is "not" built down to a price then why would a builder use brass skin fittings and...
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