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Old 04-06-2015, 10:54   #16
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Re: Looking For A Tallship Experience For 16 Year Old Son

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My son has been a fulltime liveaboard with us for nearly 4 years, he will be 16 in September and I am trying to find a Tallship experience/job where he can spread his wings a little bit. He is competent crew, in shape and extremely respectful. I just want him to have some room to grow and find himself a bit.

Ideally I would love for something in the Pacific where I grew up, but the Caribbean works as well. We are sitting in Blackpoint Bahamas doing laundry and I"m searching, but all I can come up with are UK sailing programs, short ones at that.

I mentioned an entire semester crewing and he was all for that, preferably it would be longer then most of what I've found 4-5 day programs. Any help pointing me in the general direction would be greatly appreciated!

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P.S. We aren't affluent by any means, broke pay as you go cruisers as a matter of fact. This would likely mean making significant sacrifice on our part, but I believe it would be worth it.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:38   #17
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Re: Looking For A Tallship Experience For 16 Year Old Son

If you or your son are looking for real tall ships, there are three that come to my mind. The first is he can join the U.S. Coast and attend the CG Academy in Conn. and sail on the Eagle, either as enlisted crew or as a cadet, and get a College Degree. Second, there are two Tall Ships out of Gray's Harbor, WA. namely the Lady Washington, and the Hawaiian Chieftain.


If your son is as sharp as you say he is the CG Academy will be the best way to go. As it will cost you nothing, and he will get paid for going to college. However, be aware entrance is rough because it is strictly on grades (NO CONGRESSIONAL APPOINTMENTS). All other Academies require special recommendations.


What ever he decides to do Good Luck to him.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:48   #18
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Sea Semester is a rigorous program for University students; two schooners: R/V Corwith Cramer and R/V Robert Seamans. I think what you are looking for is here:
SALTS Sail and Life Training Society - Home . btw, my oldest son just turned 13 and I am/we are keen for him to travel the path you are exploring for your son. Our simple pedagogy for experiential learning on ship engages Head (think) Hands (do) and Heart (feel/reflect/revere).Gonna look at your blog, we just finihsed ten months aboard our Cal 46.
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If you or your son are looking for real tall ships, there are three that come to my mind. The first is he can join the U.S. Coast and attend the CG Academy in Conn. and sail on the Eagle, either as enlisted crew or as a cadet, and get a College Degree. Second, there are two Tall Ships out of Gray's Harbor, WA. namely the Lady Washington, and the Hawaiian Chieftain.


If your son is as sharp as you say he is the CG Academy will be the best way to go. As it will cost you nothing, and he will get paid for going to college. However, be aware entrance is rough because it is strictly on grades (NO CONGRESSIONAL APPOINTMENTS). All other Academies require special recommendations.


What ever he decides to do Good Luck to him.
I thought they put the CG into the bucket with the other academies,
needing a congressional recommendation, kiss ass. Great way to get paid to get an education. At one time you could do two years and go for a masters degree at the school of you choice.

I hope they consider it and his grades are there.
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Re: Looking For A Tallship Experience For 16 Year Old Son

There are quite a number of tall ship sail training trips available in New Zealand and Australia. In NZ the Spirit of Adventure. And in Oz there's Austa Tall Ships.

These programmes are usually intended for newbies. But given his experience there's no reason your son couldn't apply to join as crew. Typically that's a no cost option.
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Try Leeuwin Ocean Adventures. This is out of Perth, Western Australia
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Sorry, Didn't look to see if I'm being redundant.
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Maybe the Bark Europa - they have both paid and crew positions and sail the Atlantic and Antarctic mostly. https://www.barkeuropa.com
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Re: Looking For A Tallship Experience For 16 Year Old Son

The St Lawrence II sails all summer out of Kingston Ontario. Its a great program, and not expensive:

https://youtu.be/1Nm-kKmZhJM
St. Lawrence II - Brigantine Inc.

Toronto Brigantine operates two ships, STV Pathfinder and TS Playfair, out of Toronto:

https://youtu.be/VfDVPyou_AE
Toronto BrigantineĀ*|Ā*Tall Ship Adventures for Students

I sailed with them years ago, excellent program.However, at 60' on deck and 72' LOA, you might consider these tall ships...small ships.

Even if your aren't interested...check out the youtube video links (above) and you will totally want to sail with them.

Both these programs (above) get their staff from their trainees. Staff sail free, and maybe even get a small honorarium. So even if you must pay for the first course, he may be able to stay on without cost. Also, canadian dollars...thats a 20% discount right there for you.

If money is an issue, I think both programs offer burseries, or may offer you a deal if they are short of petty officers.

I've heard that flights from florida to toronto (or syracuse) are very cheap.

And if you have $48,000 (cdn), then Class Afloat runs a fantastic program where they can do a year of high school or university:

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Have him join the USCG and work on the Eagle. and the best part is after he graduates from college he won't be living in your basement. and will have a full time job.
It worked for me. My daughter just graduated from the Naval academy
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My son has been a fulltime liveaboard with us for nearly 4 years, he will be 16 in September and I am trying to find a Tallship experience/job where he can spread his wings a little bit. He is competent crew, in shape and extremely respectful. I just want him to have some room to grow and find himself a bit.

Ideally I would love for something in the Pacific where I grew up, but the Caribbean works as well. We are sitting in Blackpoint Bahamas doing laundry and I"m searching, but all I can come up with are UK sailing programs, short ones at that.

I mentioned an entire semester crewing and he was all for that, preferably it would be longer then most of what I've found 4-5 day programs. Any help pointing me in the general direction would be greatly appreciated!

S/V Thin Line

P.S. We aren't affluent by any means, broke pay as you go cruisers as a matter of fact. This would likely mean making significant sacrifice on our part, but I believe it would be worth it.

Great Lakes - the Tall Ships run frequent programs in the Great Lakes from the Eastern sea board. Check to see if there may be openings based on experience.

TALL SHIPS CHALLENGE® Great Lakes 2016

There are sign on positions for interested tourists for port to port. These are pay-to-ride. Dig deeper for long term crew positions.

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THe Maine Windjammer Association could be a contact if he's interested in working aboard traditional schooners that take on guests.
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Also look into the young endeavour.

http://www.youngendeavour.gov.au/site/scheme.php

It sails the east coast of Australia


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“Unlike the other federal service academies, the Coast Guard Academy does not require a Congressional nomination. To be considered for admission, you must submit all required application material by January 15 of the year of entrance (October 15 of the year prior to entrance for Early Action consideration)...
... There is no minimum test score requirement for the U.S. Coast Guard Academy. Successful candidates usually score at least 1100 combined Critical Reading (Verbal) and Math on the SAT, or have an ACT Composite of at least 24.”
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