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Old 01-02-2005, 03:07   #1
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Safe Water

“Treatment of Water”

From the CDC’s “Safe Food and Water” at: http://www.cdc.gov/travel/foodwater.htm

Travelers should be advised of the following methods for treating water to make it safe for drinking and other purposes.

Boiling

Boiling is by far the most reliable method to make water of uncertain purity safe for drinking. Water should be brought to a vigorous rolling boil for 1 minute and allowed to cool to room temperature; ice should not be added. This procedure will kill bacterial and parasitic causes of diarrhea at all altitudes and viruses at low altitudes. To kill viruses at altitudes >2,000 m (6,562 ft), water should be boiled for 3 minutes or chemical disinfection should be used after the water has boiled for 1 minute. Adding a pinch of salt to each quart or pouring the water several times from one clean container to another will improve the taste.

Chemical Disinfection

Chemical disinfection with iodine is an alternative method of water treatment when it is not feasible to boil water. However, this method cannot be relied on to kill Cryptosporidium unless the water is allowed to sit for 15 hours before it is drunk. Two well-tested methods for disinfection with iodine are the use of tincture of iodine (Table 4–1) and tetraglycine hydroperiodide tablets (e.g., Globaline, Potable-Aqua, or Coghlan's). These tablets are available from pharmacies and sporting goods stores. The manufacturers' instructions should be followed. If water is cloudy, the number of tablets used should be doubled; if water is extremely cold (<5̊ C; <41̊ F]), an attempt should be made to warm the water, and the recommended contact time should be increased to achieve reliable disinfection. Cloudy water should be strained through a clean cloth into a container to remove any sediment or floating matter, and then the water should be boiled or treated with iodine.

Table 4–1. Treatment of water with tincture of iodine
- Tincture of Iodine 2%
- 5 Drops* to be added per quart or liter of Clear water:
- 10 Drops* to be added per quart or liter of Cold or cloudy water†

* 1 drop = 0.05 mL. Water must stand for a minimum of 30 minutes before it is safe to use.

Note: tincture of iodine can come from a medicine chest or first-aid kit.

†Very turbid or cold water can require prolonged contact time; if possible, such water should be allowed to stand several hours before use. To ensure that Cryptosporidium is killed, water must stand for 15 hours before drinking.

Chlorine, in various forms, can also be used for chemical disinfection. However, its germicidal activity varies greatly with the pH, temperature, and organic content of the water to be purified; therefore, it can produce less consistent levels of disinfection in many types of water. Chemically treated water is intended for short-term use only. If iodine-disinfected water is the only water available, it should be used for only a few weeks.

Water Filters

Portable filters currently on the market will provide various degrees of protection against microbes. Reverse-osmosis filters provide protection against viruses, bacteria, and protozoa, but they are expensive, are larger than most filters used by backpackers, and the small pores on this type of filter are rapidly plugged by muddy or cloudy water. In addition, the membranes in some filters can be damaged by chlorine in water. Microstrainer filters with pore sizes in the 0.1- to 0.3-μm range can remove bacteria and protozoa from drinking water, but they do not remove viruses. To kill viruses, travelers using microstrainer filters should be advised to disinfect the water with iodine or chlorine after filtration, as described previously. Filters with iodine-impregnated resins are most effective against bacteria, and the iodine will kill some viruses; however, the contact time with the iodine in the filter is too short to kill the protozoa Cryptosporidium and, in cold water, Giardia.

Filters that are designed to remove Cryptosporidium and Giardia carry one of the four messages below - verbatim - on the package label.

* Reverse osmosis
* Absolute pore size of 1 micron or smaller
* Tested and certified by NSF Standard 53 or NSF Standard 58 for cyst removal
* Tested and certified by NSF Standard 53 or NSF Standard 58 for cyst reduction

Filters may not be designed to remove crypto if they are labeled only with these words:
* Nominal pore size of <1 micron
* One micron filter
* Effective against Giardia
* Effective against parasites
* Carbon filter
* Water purifier
* EPA approved (Caution: EPA does not approve or test filters.)
* EPA registered (Caution: EPA does not register filters for crypto removal)
* Activated carbon
* Removes chlorine
* Ultraviolet light
* Pentiodide resins
* Water softener

Filters collect organisms from water. Anyone changing cartridges should wear gloves and wash hands afterwards. Filters may not remove crypto as well as boiling does because even good brands of filters may sometimes have manufacturing flaws that allow small numbers of organisms to pass through the filter. In addition, poor filter maintenance or failure to replace filter cartridges as recommended by the manufacturer can cause a filter to fail.

A travelers' guide to buying water filters for preventing cryptosporidiosis and giardiasis can be found at URL: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasi...vent_water.htm
These two organisms are either highly (cryptosporidium) or moderately (Giardia) resistant to chlorine; so conventional halogen disinfection may be ineffective. Boiling water or filtration can be used as an alternative to disinfection. Many filters that remove parasites may not be able to kill or remove smaller organisms.

Proper selection, operation, care, and maintenance of water filters are essential to producing safe water. The manufacturers' instructions should be followed. NSF International, an independent testing company, tests and certifies water filters for their ability to remove protozoa, but not for their ability to remove bacteria or viruses. Few published scientific reports have evaluated the efficacy of specific brands or models of filters against bacteria and viruses in water. Until such information becomes available, CDC cannot identify which specific brands or models of filters are most likely to remove bacteria and viruses.
To find out if a particular filter is certified to remove cryptosporidia, contact NSF International by calling
Tel: 1-877-867-3435
Fax: 313-769-0109
or by writing to 789 North Dixboro Road, P.O. Box 130140, Ann Arbor, Michigan 48113-0140;
or online at http://www.NSF.org/certified/DWTU/ . Under “Reduction claims for drinking water treatment units - health effects,” check the box in front of the words “Cyst Reduction.”

As a last resort, if no source of safe drinking water is available or can be obtained, tap water that is uncomfortably hot to touch might be safer than cold tap water; however, proper disinfection, filtering, or boiling is still advised.


Immunization:

Determine the immunizations you will need by contacting the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ( www.cdc.gov ). Once at the site, click on "Traveler's Health," ( http://www.cdc.gov/travel/ ) type in the region in the drop box, and click on "go." Scroll down the pages to read about recommended immunizations, tips, and other subjects of interest.

When scheduling your immunizations, remember to plan enough time for boosters if applicable. Your local public health department should be able to help you or at least provide a referral to a site specializing in overseas travel.

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Old 01-02-2005, 10:49   #2
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Excellent once again Gord. I would like to add one point about the boiling. I was taught to boil twice. (Now I won't have the correct terms here) But the reason is, the adult stage of some bacteria and some Viri, is destroyed during the boiling process. But the egg?? and spore stage often are not. If you boil once, then allow it to cool for ten minutes, or to room temp, then boil again, it will kill everything. The reason is, upon cooling, the environment the little greeblies live in becomes perfect for them to grow and they all spring into life, but there life cycle is a little longer than 10mins and so they haven't got to the stage of producing there "offspring" yet. Thus the second boil will kill all.

Two other additions can be added to your excellent post. Boiling water in a pressure cooker. The increased pressure, means you can increase the boiling point. This can aid in a quicker and more thorough kill and the spores etc of many more greeblies will also be destroyed. It also helps with boiling water at altitude, but I don't think that is a problem with most of us boaties.
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Distallation of water. This has the added affect of helping to remove the "gunk" in the water. You can boil water and make it safe, but it doesn't get rid of the colour, the taste or sometimes the smell. Distillation improves the water quality dramatically.
You can buy purpose built units and you can also come back to the pressure cooker thing and make your own. A good length of copper pipe connected to the steam vent and then coiled a distance. place the coil in a container of water to cool the steam. Control the steam pressure with the heating source. It works well. Please insure you use a pressure cooker that has another means of pressure venting should it over pressurise.
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I’m not familiar with the double boiling (to kill spores) theory; but recall that some spores are NOT killed by simple boiling (100 Deg. C / 212 Deg. F). As I understand it, (and we are pushing the limits of my knowledge) these heat-resistant Spores are unlikely to be WATERBORNE pathogens.

Most experts feel that if the water reaches a rolling boil it is safe. In most cases, water is rendered safe to drink if boiled for 2 - 3 minutes, which will kill most bacteria, worm spores and parasite spores (most bacteria are killed quickly once the water is above 65 degrees C - 150 deg. F).
Giardia is killed in less than a minute at 80 degrees C (176 degrees F), well under the boiling point. Bacteria and viruses last somewhat longer, but are probably killed in less than five minutes at 90 degrees C (190 degrees F).
Some viruses may last a little longer.
To ensure that virtually all amoebas are killed, water should be boiled for about 10 minutes.

Make sure, however, that the water is actually boiling - a rolling boil with big bubbles coming up and shaking the pot. It's surprising how many think that a few very tiny bubbles on the bottom of a pan constitutes boiling. That's not boiling - That's just a few bubbles.

You are absolutely correct - boiling within a Pressure Cooker raises the boiling point of water, hence you get a “hotter”, more vigorous boil.

Thanks for your excellent input.

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