How Do You Cook Onboard?

[Steve Pope]

I have been hoping that someone would have had experiences with the "Wallas" diesel cook top / stove, maybe because they are so expensive (at least here in NZ they are) nobody buys them. The blurb sounds good and if that is anything to go by means no more propane to worry about etc. just carry a tad more diesel.

[Lancerbye]

I am not familiar with the Wallas diesel cook top. Had a Force 10 that used pressurized diesel on a previous boat. Heat was good but the burners had to be preheated using alcohol and if you missed the ignition point because of a distraction you had to wait for cool down and start all over. At the point when the alcohol burnt off in the side cups you would have to crack the pressurized diesel valves and ignite the main burner. It produced a very hot blue flame and worked well in still anchorage conditions. I have had alcohol only, pressurized diesel, propane and now electric. This is the best. I have a very quiet 12kw generator which takes care of battery recharge, watermaker duties while cooking the meals. Having had all the others, at this point in my life ( trying to make it easier) is the reason for my choice.

[Steve Pope]

The Wallas works on a different principle it is not a heavy unit and doesn't need pre-heating, so apparently it is far more suitable for use in the tropics, for me price would be the main issue that keeps me using propane. If you google "wallas stoves" their web site comes up.

[Nordic cat]

I have looked at them, for the same reasons, but have decided against them.

Read the instruction manual and mounting instructions. They need 4-5 minutes warm up time. They heat a plate, that will take long to cool down.
All this makes a hot galley even hotter. Then you need expensive utensils that have a perfectly flat bottom, also after you inadvertently cool them too fast.

Finally they also consume electrical power, but not to bad actually.

I'm going to stick with gas, and have a good old fashioned primus and a gallon of kerosene as backup.

Regards

Alan

[multihullsailor6]

Originally Posted by Steve Pope

I have been hoping that someone would have had experiences with the "Wallas" diesel cook top / stove, maybe because they are so expensive (at least here in NZ they are) nobody buys them. The blurb sounds good and if that is anything to go by means no more propane to worry about etc. just carry a tad more diesel.

You could also look at the diesel cooker from Webasto X100. You should find it at Webasto

I'll be installing one of these two brands soon.
Roger

[Steve Pope]

Thanks Roger, how does the Webasto stack up in the price stats. I note that it doesn't appear to have any way to attach pot holders, though i'm sure something could be made up. I havn't had any experience with ceramic cook tops re heat up / cool down times can anyone shed enlightenment on this.

[multihullsailor6]

Originally Posted by Steve Pope

Thanks Roger, how does the Webasto stack up in the price stats. I note that it doesn't appear to have any way to attach pot holders, though i'm sure something could be made up. I havn't had any experience with ceramic cook tops re heat up / cool down times can anyone shed enlightenment on this.

Hi Steve,

For delivery in Holland I have been quoted
Wallas : € 1027 + VAT for the 85DU model plus access./fittings
Webasto: € 1099 + VAT for the X100 model plus access./fittings.

I see there is also a Wallas 88 model, but haven't been able to find a price yet.

One could possibly fit the Wallas potholders on a Webasto stove?

For both makes it appears that security from gas has it's price!

Roger

[Lancerbye]

I had a look at the Wallas and I had never seen one before. Looks very interesting. How noisy is it? (fan, pump, etc.) Is it available anywhere in North America?

[fastcat435]

Originally Posted by Lancerbye

I had a look at the Wallas and I had never seen one before. Looks very interesting. How noisy is it? (fan, pump, etc.) Is it available anywhere in North America?

I use to have a unikt on a maxim 38 cat.
In general it is a good system the negatives are it takes a long time to heat up and it is impossible to cook something that needs to be very hot like a steak or so. just not enough heat.
Not noisy you just hear the diesel pump clicking
Gideon

[multihullsailor6]

Originally Posted by Lancerbye

I had a look at the Wallas and I had never seen one before. Looks very interesting. How noisy is it? (fan, pump, etc.) Is it available anywhere in North America?

The Wallas website lists Scan Marine in Seattle as their US agent. Boat heating and cooling experts, Wallas heaters, Ardic heaters and other diesel boat furnaces - Scanmarine.com

Roger

[Lodesman]

Steve,

The Wallas stove was mentioned in this thread: Magnetic Induction Cooktops

Apparently it can be used as a space-heater too.

Kevin

[wolfenzee]

I have a two burner propane cooktop with a stove top oven, a Dickinson propane "Sea-Bering diesel stove/oven (will be able to keep the propane cooktop). In rebuilding my galley I will end up with a built in icebox, sink (that drains right), a large wrap around cobalt blue tile counter and lots of wood food prep areas, big hefty cutting boards, better storage, etc. I live on the boat and am trying to end up with a good galley for extended cruiseing for two.

[Sailingbeagles]

Love my galley and cook almost all meals aboard when cruising, even making bread and toasting it for breakfast in the Caribbean. We can't afford to eat out much except for the occasional beer or quick burger, maybe once a month or so.

We have a 3-burner Force 10 with oven and broiler, an engine driven fridge that is amazing in terms of insulation (which means not much in terms of space), and a grill for the stern.

Real plates and napkins add much to the eating experience (and guests marvel at them too, adding to the fun) I don't dare go with wine glasses, or I haven't yet. we'll see!

[Hal]

Since we don't have a galley on the daysailor, it's either the grill or sandwiches and sometimes at a nice resturant. When we upgrade it will be on the stove and oven and the grill.

[perchance]

A two burner alcohol stove of which only one burner works. Also known as a curtain burner.