“Seamanship”

[Hampus]

Seamanship, practicing common sense while we do whatever it is we do on the sea?

/Hampus

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by svHyLyte

An example of Seamanship:

The Little Boat that Could. See middle of the page at:

Latitude 38 - The West's Premier Sailing & Marine Magazine

Great story but to be honest, more a good example of determination while in survival mode.

Good Seamanship would have been a more conservative approach to using his rig in trade conditions but again, he was in a race, which to me is part of the definition of 'bad seamanship"

[Pblais]

Good Seamanship would have been a more conservative approach to using his rig in trade conditions but again, he was in a race, which to me is part of the definition of 'bad seamanship"

Racing is not about seamanship, it is about racing. I might not go so far as bad seamanship. Racing leaves all else as an aside or how else could there be a race.

Seamanship, practicing common sense while we do whatever it is we do on the sea?

There is no common sense since it presumes too much is already so. Common sense is an expected outcome from repetition. Seamanship presumes little, expects less, and hopes for opportunity. Common sense expects a way while seamanship finds one.

[Hampus]

Originally Posted by Pblais

There is no common sense since it presumes too much is already so. Common sense is an expected outcome from repetition. Seamanship presumes little, expects less, and hopes for opportunity. Common sense expects a way while seamanship finds one.

I kind of disagree there. Common sense means that you do the best of the situation you are in. Regardless of where you are or what you're doing, there's no manual for common sense. To me, seamanship and common sense go very much hand in hand. But this is more a discussion of meaning of words.

/Hampus

[Pblais]

Common sense means that you do the best of the situation you are in.

Common Sense is the idea anyone would know what to do at the moment something requiring attention happened. Good seamanship would have avoided the problem in the first place. To imply someone lacks common sense is insulting. The expression "they didn't have the common sense to come in out of the rain" illustrates it.

[Wotname]

It seems that you both may be right (or wrong ).
For another reading of common sense see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_sense

[Hampus]

Thanks Interesting reading.

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by Pblais

Racing is not about seamanship, it is about racing. I might not go so far as bad seamanship. Racing leaves all else as an aside or how else could there be a race.

Sorry Paul, you can rationalise racing all you like but you are on the sea in a boat, pushing the vessel and crew to the limits in order for bragging rights.

It is simply…Bad Seamanship!

If 5 fully laden Super tankers were running abreast down Juan de Fuca Straight in a race to be the first to reach the Pilot’s station…would you use the same rationale?