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Old 22-10-2012, 21:02   #16
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Re: Safety at Sea

Actually I would say no peeing over the side ever. Use a bottle (or bucket). Little John is a good idea.

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I have seen better prices at some large pharmacies. Have one from when I used to fly Cessna 172.
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Re: Safety at Sea

85% of man who fall overboard have their flies open. I do not permit peeing overboard. The only exception I have ever made was on a boat with an electric fresh water head and a leak in the fresh water water system.

Guess how I feel about fresh water water heads?
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Re: Safety at Sea

BTW the vessel should should be properly prepared for heavy weather.

Sole boards secured
Under seat storage secured
Batteries secured
Sufficient handholds below and on deck
Secure tether points in the cockpit
Lee clothes
Galley harness
etc..
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I think these rules are more important than a safety knife or Flares

ATT men.. No Peeing over the side without three things.
1- fair weather
2- another "competant" person on deck
3- Daylight hours only

Never in foul weather
Never when alone on deck
Never between Dusk and Dawn
That's what the cockpit drain holes are for, no reason to go to the side...
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Old 22-10-2012, 21:44   #20
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That's what the cockpit drain holes are for, no reason to go to the side...
Classy Lol. So what about number twos.. Yikes!! Open cockpits only eh?
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That's what the cockpit drain holes are for, no reason to go to the side...
Eww!! Go with the bottle instead. It may not go down the drain and slosh about your shoes. No thanks!

I've read it's a myth most men overboard have their flies open.
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Classy Lol. So what about number twos.. Yikes!! Open cockpits only eh?
Same holes, you may have to use your feet though to press......I'd better stop there, but you get the idea....

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Eww!! Go with the bottle instead. It may not go down the drain and slosh about your shoes. No thanks!

I've read it's a myth most men overboard have their flies open.
And i for one have no plans on verifying that myth....
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Best cockpit toilet for number 1's ever...

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Actually I would say no peeing over the side ever. Use a bottle (or bucket). Little John is a good idea.

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Yes, I am aware that many skippers dont allow it full stop. And in certain conditions I agree. But for the most part, its no more dangerous than standing and doing any job on the boat. As one hand is always "for the boat" in each circumstance.

The reality is, that peeing over the side is safe. Given the conditions and timing. Hence my previous post. As a former instructor and commercial skipper, I am aware of the old 80% of MOBs have thier flys open rule. Its like saying working on the bow is safe. Well, for the most part it is. Unless its at night- during a storm- and your the only person on deck and your un-tethered. In which case it borders on stupidity. Its about timing, conditions and common sense.

But i don't agree with a flat rule of no peeing overboard- ever. That's a little extreme. As extreme as saying, "never go to sea, because people die out there".

I like your bottle idea for inclement weather and for when short handed though. Great idea.
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Re: Safety at Sea

I assume you have confidence in the cleanliness of your fuel and your fuel tanks, fuel filters, and water strainers before going out to play in rough stuff. Well-agitated crud would not be fun.
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I like your bottle idea for inclement weather and for when short handed though. Great idea.
Heave-to and use the head.

Even the pants I wear for sailing have no fly.

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Heave-to and use the head.
And "sit" on the damn thing. No fire-hoses please!
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And "sit" on the damn thing. No fire-hoses please!
Yes, all performances are seated.
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But for the most part, its no more dangerous than standing and doing any job on the boat.
Yup. I'm a pretty safe guy but some of the rules that people have on boats are why no one wants to sail with them. Relax, take a piss with your arm crooked around a cap shroud. You can slip and smash your head in the cockpit just walking around, danger is everywhere. If it's bumping and thumping that's a different story, but in benign conditions yes: it's okay to just sit there unclipped with no pfd and relax.

I really can't believe there are people who stay tethered to their boat the entire time they are offshore. Seems really nuts to me. As nuts as someone who would never be tethered.
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